that's why I do Skeptiko... still clarify thoughts :)Alex,
I think you should write a book about your own view of the various possible conspiracies, and how they connect with spirituality. This came up on that interview, but actually clarifying your thoughts enough to write a book would coalesce some of your thoughts. I think a lot of people (myself included at times) see the conspiracy/political items on Skeptiko as a distraction from the main subject - the real nature of consciousness - and you should spell out the big picture as you see it.
David
Yes - that is what I like about Skeptiko - money plays no part. I mean, it isn't the cost as such, but when you feel something is being done for money, it makes you wonder if the motives are pure.Damn, I haven't listened yet, but it sounds like all the good stuff was saved for the Members' hour!
still clarify thoughts
I'm glad you denounced Aleistar Crowley in the interview.
I agree with your assessment that "By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?"
The old canard that "Yes, Crowley was a sociopath, but had a few good insights" does not fly. It's true that Crowley ran across a few unique insights, but en toto his philosophy is poison.
Crowley is always presented backwards by his promoters "Yes, he had a few flaws, but his philosophy offers brilliant revelations!"
Funny thing is, Tsarion employs the same tactic as Crowley: ...florid, voluminous word-salad that sounds great in the moment, but contradicts itself five minutes later without apology.
https://unslaved.com/?s=crowley
Maybe the plus hour was better?
I'm glad you denounced Aleistar Crowley in the interview.
I agree with your assessment that "By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?"
The old canard that "Yes, Crowley was a sociopath, but had a few good insights" does not fly. It's true that Crowley ran across a few unique insights, but en toto his philosophy is poison.
Crowley is always presented backwards by his promoters "Yes, he had a few flaws, but his philosophy offers brilliant revelations!"
great. welcome.I wanted to chime in on this interview b/c it's how I got here to the forum and exploring Alex's work.
already scheduled :)I'd love to hear them come back and be interviewed by Alex b/c I thought the rapport was ideal for continuing deeper.
love this... great stuff Michael!This 'polarizing' aspect of politics and religion is so key I think and it's crucial to understanding the trajectory of spirituality today, and this ties right back to human nature and organic processes. When David said that science and religion now sound the same I could completely relate. That's exactly what's turned me away from science and religion all my life--they are 'dogma haunted'
Interesting... queued for reading.The Emergence of Conspirituality
cool idea, but not sure I totally get it... what do you think.As David went on, I again could so relate. The deconstruction is essential just to be able to witness 'the conspiracy in your own mind."
lot of interesting stuff to unpack re Crowley. on one level it's a story is easily understood... one we've heard before -- rich kid, born of privilege, longs for attention from his troubled and religiously fanatical father. he rebels in every way possible... winds broke and pathetic with with a trail of horrific, shattered relationships. then, late in life. finds love thru the birth of his child. sounds like an MTV bio pic... magic is a sideshow :)As for Crowley, my impression was that Michael and David simply want to demystify him as he has become our modern-day Dracula or something. I see him as an intelligent showman, certainly twisted, but I think some of that must of been an act for attention.
Although I'd certainly agree regarding modern science, I think the traditional sciences (and parts of modern science) are well worth exploring.When David said that science and religion now sound the same I could completely relate. That's exactly what's turned me away from science and religion all my life--they are 'dogma haunted'--and that is so clear to me it's like written in all caps and neon
Although I'd certainly agree regarding modern science, I think the traditional sciences (and parts of modern science) are well worth exploring.
I left Christianity for science at university (a long time ago!) and since then, I have gradually become aware of the dogma in science! Of course, in a way that makes life interesting - so many subjects that seemed settled, now seem up in the air!
David
great. welcome.
already scheduled :)
love this... great stuff Michael!
Interesting... queued for reading.
cool idea, but not sure I totally get it... what do you think.
lot of interesting stuff to unpack re Crowley. on one level it's a story is easily understood... one we've heard before -- rich kid, born of privilege, longs for attention from his troubled and religiously fanatical father. he rebels in every way possible... winds broke and pathetic with with a trail of horrific, shattered relationships. then, late in life. finds love thru the birth of his child. sounds like an MTV bio pic... magic is a sideshow :)