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Hybrid Humans: Scientific Evidence of Our 800,000-Year-Old Alien Legacy
by Daniella Fenton and Bruce R. Fenton
questions / suggestions?
by Daniella Fenton and Bruce R. Fenton
questions / suggestions?
Great points Michael.So if anybody wants to say this has been going on for 0.8m years why that cut off date? Is this an evidence issue? Here are some other questions I have - assuming I provisionally accept the proposition:
- For what purpose? Is there a trend?
- Why is it so damned hard? I mean after 800,000 years we are the best ET can do?
- If we are talking hybridisation (seems to be the rage these days) what can be discern about the nature of the other agent/s?
- I don't agree that you can have a useful scientific theory about this with laying out exactly what your metaphysical assumptions are - and what your theory of ET is.
great point. Never thought of it that way. I hear you saying is that conjecture about the transformation from one massively large random pattern to another would best be understood as an information theory problem, right?Collectively we, as a scientific society have failed to grasp this...
I do not want my studio engineer or guitar luthier telling me how to embellish a minor pentatonic nor interpret the lyrics of a song. That is not his/her expertise.
Correct.great point. Never thought of it that way. I hear you saying is that conjecture about the transformation from one massively large random pattern to another would best be understood information theory problem, right?
great point. I don't know if he has already offered an answer.So if anybody wants to say this has been going on for 0.8m years why that cut off date?
great stuff! trying to wrap my head around this:Great points Michael.
I am an evolutionist - finding credible basis for both the track record of phylogenetics and as well, the incremental and gradual introduction of the morphologies (and now DNA sets) which form its basis. As well, in examining DNA, and what we know of guy what did they think did they have any thoughts, it is clear that this mechanism is 'self-regulating'. This very principle dethrones a great deal of our wishful thinking. 'God' seems to be bound by some key laws of self-imposed technical embargo, which serve to produce ergodicity amazingly similar to that of natural laws. This is a big problem for ID and C proponents.
However, as a cryptologist, I do know that hiding signal inside apparent background noise, and in plain sight, is the first best trick of deception. Intent, is the signal in the background noise of evolutionary mechanics. The question is,
1. Can we ferret out Intent??(I capitalize this, not because it is God per se - rather a defined doctrine, like the Marshall Doctrine).2. All we need is one case study (white crow) bearing falsification of non-Intent.∴ Crafting a highly stacked theory (ET/Creator), violates Ockham's Razor and serves to bias the scientific questions being asked from then on. Therefore the null hypothesis must be that 'Intent is absent inside a potential duality'.However, a good scientist never believes the null hypothesis - as that is an indicator of bias. His or her job is to falsify the null hypothesis, not promote it. The issue is not one of Intelligent Design, nor Creation. Those are not viable scientific arguments per ∴ above; because it is clear in the evolutionary record, that Creation and Intelligent management were both unnecessary. This does not serve to rule out the presence of Intent however.
Intent is the necessary alternative. If one waves off Intent by means of apothegm and purely skepticism, then one is conducting pseudoscience.
In other words, one's 'theory of ET' serves to prejudice the entire discussion - so we should not be developing such an idea before asking the critical path questions of disciplined hypothesis development. Such agency serves to polarize and prejudice the playing field, via emotional priming.
Emotional Priming - a process of pseudo-education wherein a popular controversial issue such as Creation-Evolution, or Monsim-Dualism is framed as a whipping horse, posed in a false dilemma, so as to polarize the general public into 'science' and 'woo' camps of belief. The visceral reaction to the woo camp of belief inside academia imbues a type of anchoring bias and emotional agency on the part of those who self appoint or are tasked to 'represent science' - thereafter influencing their objectivity just as severely as would a religion.
When all the task at hand requires is to simply and dispassionately provide one falsifying example of Intent. This is actually very very simple. It is a white crow falsification inference potential. Faking skeptics rule out Intent with a wave of the hand and an apothegm - however most geneticists and scientists I speak with, will casually comment that they have not yet ruled it out (if they understand the scientific argument that is, and are not emotionally primed by the fake arguments). There are some curiosities which do not bear a natural explanation. And they are not 'Gaps', but rather Gapes in theory.
For if both Intent and Natural Self-Regulation are present (and these are not mutually exclusive constructs), this duality comments greatly upon our natural realm and the role we bear therein.
- Phylogenetics -- the study of evolutionary relationships among biological entities
--- are you ok with this definition? seems to be putting the cart before the horse... but maybe I'm missing the point... isn't the question at hand whether these relationships are the result of "evolutionary processes"?
- Morphology -- a branch of biology that deals with the form and structure of animals and plants.
--- what's most important about this approach?
- proteostasis?
- epigenetics -- this is a real head-scratcher... what do you think is going on here? I always laugh at the way science has squeezed "genetics" into the label of this phenomenon. creates the illusion that we understand it.
- intentional / purposeful / designed -- wow, a lot here.
- tech -- one thing that has stuck with me since the interview with mary rodwell is the observation that our own biomedical technology is reaching a singularity point wherein our ability to exercise our intent into the evolutionary process will intersect with the intent of the others who have done it IYKWIM. any thoughts on this?
Bruce has a deliberate presence of Twitter where he spends and inordinate amount of time over-reviewing the Epstein affair so, word to the wise, stay away from that subject ;). Ask him how his viewpoints lock up, or disagree with, the Anunnaki-creation genetic manipulation dialogue (Sitchin-like); why he sympathizes with @tomdelonge & #TTSA when they discuss the need to explain the basics to people before going to a full reveal. To quote "There are things about the structure of civilization and the forces underlying our world, that are so horrific & alien that some minds may break."Hybrid Humans: Scientific Evidence of Our 800,000-Year-Old Alien Legacy
by Daniella Fenton and Bruce R. Fenton
questions / suggestions?
great. BTW very interesting conversation with Bruce here:Analogy: A criminal who robs banks, may indeed suffer from a mental disorder. However, a criminal who makes the choice to STOP robbing banks does and can not. The second act is one of deliberacy, and not chaos.
Most evolutionists do not get this second hidden miracle. This is not a gap in our understanding, rather it is a gape. It is THE issue.
will do. thx W.Ask him how his viewpoints lock up, or disagree with, the Anunnaki-creation genetic manipulation dialogue (Sitchin-like);
very interesting. thx would never have thought to go there :)why he sympathizes with @tomdelonge & #TTSA when they discuss the need to explain the basics to people before going to a full reveal. To quote "There are things about the structure of civilization and the forces underlying our world, that are so horrific & alien that some minds may break."
That should do for a start.
I get your point and don't want to unnecessarily complicate / obfuscate, but I think what we're understanding about extended consciousness may contradict this in some ways... spirit guides... life plan... soul groups... angels. not to mention more mundane things like morphogenic fields.DNA is technology, plain and simple.
This is the authors description of Daniella Fenton's new book at Amazon. Since Bruce is a member here, I thought it might be worth basing this discussion on the above description."Our hypothesis is that a more advanced extraterrestrial civilization was engaged in creating new life and planting it on various planets. Earth is just one of them. What we see in our DNA is a programme consisting of two versions, a giant structured code and a simple or basic code."- Vladimir Sherbak (astrophysicist) & Maxim Makulov (astrobiologist)For millennia cultures around the globe have claimed to have star origins, passing on stories of an advanced alien intelligence responsible for genetically engineering the first humans. Today we finally have the scientific technologies to explore this claim and bring it to an objective conclusion.Hybrid Humans offers the confirming evidence that Homo sapiens is an alien-hybrid species established by a wealth of supporting scientific data. Hybrid Humans follows in the tradition of trail breaking ancient astronaut books by Lloyd Pye, Erich von Däniken and Zacharia Sitchin. Any fans of History Channel's Ancient Aliens will most certainly appreciate this book! In 1995, an unassuming Australian lady, Valerie Barrow, found herself temporary custodian of an ancient sacred Aboriginal artifact. Unknown to her, the mysterious 'Churinga' object was, in fact, an incredible extraterrestrial device with an on-board consciousness. Today we would know this as a Bracewell Probe, an alien sentinel left here to monitor our world and eventually make contact.The resident alien intelligence introduced itself as Alcheringa, an entity from the Dreamtime, and then began to transfer information directly into Valerie's mind via a voice-to-skull interface. The historical events Alcheringa revealed are destined to profoundly change our understanding of human origins and humanity's place in the cosmos. Hybrid Humans does not require any faith from its readers - every claim is validated by objective physical evidence. Guided by Alcheringa's transmission, Daniella, and her husband Bruce Fenton, successfully tracked down the remaining crystalline wreckage from the enormous mother-ship. The husband and wife team also identified specific anomalies in human DNA, the very fingerprints of the highly advanced extraterrestrial genetic engineers. "Sooner or later ... we have to accept the fact that all life on Earth carries the genetic code of our extraterrestrial cousins and that evolution is not what we think it is."
the interview is a couple weeks out. I'll be interested to hear yr take on the book. BTW I think I will just be talking with Bruce.Alex,
I think it would be helpful if at the beginning of the podcast you ask them to explain their thesis and what the evidence for it is. Then let them talk for a while about it. (My preference would be to let them do that for the whole podcast, interrupting only to ask for clarification when necessary.)
When is the interview? The book is available on kindle unlimited so I am reading it. What is the deadline for submitting questions in this thread?