I keep referring to dean radin double slit experiment so we have a common point of reference. this experiment seems to suggest that max planck and other great pioneers in quantum physics were right when they reached the conclusion that consciousness is fundamental and we are thus co-creators of our reality.
my gripe is not that we've do the shut up and calculate thing, but that we pretend that our engineering accomplishments allow us to escape the the true implications of the observer effect.
so, it seems to me that "reason / logic / testing" needs to be put in quotes and correctly categorized " co-created consensus reality" versus treating it as some kind of exalted objective reality.
of course, I have no idea what any of this really means, but my point is I don't think you can claim to have any idea of what it means either :)
ok, this is like a tiny point, but at the same time it's a huge point because episode 427 with claire broad changed my understanding of this. what if beings in the extended consciousness realm are not more powerful than I am... what if we're all spiritual beings playing out a role with a particular set of limitations / possibilities.
OK, I think I see what you are saying. The direction I was headed, I believe was in support of what you are pointing to.
I am working through a thought experiment concerning the double slit test right now. A groundbreaking paper was just released in April by Dr. Rangarajan Sagunthala, of Veltech Chennai, India which has taken a new tack (at least to me, someone who is David Deutsch trained) on the double slit phenomenon and its implications on particle-wave duality. Paper is below:
This 'photon-detector' version of the Double-Slit experiment serves to postulate several things:
1. It confirms that the Intentional Observation of a photon (not merely the presence of Consciousness) - serves to irrevocably alter its quantum state expression at a later time inside physical reality (to the discrete state of either a photon's Eigenvector location, or the wave's Complex Variable Space frequency and amplitude, but no longer both)
Intent is fundamental to reality. I can be a conscious observer, and a quantum Schrödinger state can still exist - but unless the observer Intends to observe that state, it will not change to a discrete state. So it is Intent and not simply Consciousness, which causes the net change to the quantum environment.
2. It brings into question the ultimate cause of the wave-like/particle-like dispersion of EMF energy in the double slit experiment, as the effect of a two-fold universe, rather than innate wave particle duality per se we observe as its outcome.
Sagunthala postulates that our universe consists of two layered components which occupy the same physical space. One is called our physical Three Dimensional EigenSpace (3DES or particle space), and the second 'Universe' is called the Complex (Number) Variable Space (CVS or wave space). The second universe existing on the founding nature of the square root of negative one (imaginary numbers).
That further then an EMF-quantum exists in a state called Instantaneous Resonant Spatial Mode (IRSM) which unifies these two 'universes' if you will, until an observer in our realm acts upon it with Intent, not merely our existence as consciousness. Thereafter the particle is transformed into either an Eigenspace entity or a Complex Variable Space entity, but no longer both.
Theta would therefore be the very very small separation between these two universes, which might account for both the Theory of Quantized Inertia (Physicisit Mike McCulloch) as well as the Dispersion of Fast Radio Bursts as they travel through the cosmos.
Below I have removed 1 dimension from each of the two universes (to make them planes), and time. This way the relationship is simplified into a conceptual representation.
And indeed, as you and Dean Radin are contending, if Intent is fundamental, then claims to Nihilism have already been falsified. We only lack to know the reach of this Intent, and cannot pre-suppose its bound.