I don't know it for sure. My point is that we don't know the opposite for sure, either.As long as that evidence was acquired without the use of consciousness, then you have a point. If consciousness was required to obtain that evidence, then your statement is logically flawed. We don't know what the universe looks like from outside of our perception. Just because a bunch of us agree that the universe appeared to exist before life doesn't mean that it's true. We can only view the universe from inside of our collective perception. You would have to be outside of consciousness to know this for sure. That, of course, is impossible.
We learn of the evidence through consciousness. But the evidence does not suggest that the universe was created by consciousness or that there were conscious beings right away. Instead it suggests there were no conscious beings until some time after the universe was created. If this model is incorrect, then someone or something is fooling us.
~~ Paul