That section of the Pentagon didn't stand that long, and many of the photos had parts obscured by firefighting operations, but here's a composite picture taking unobscured parts and stitching them together:Do you have any pictures of the pentagon crash site proving the holes were as you suggest ? It would certainly help sway me.
That section of the Pentagon didn't stand that long, and many of the photos had parts obscured by firefighting operations, but here's a composite picture taking unobscured parts and stitching them together:
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/damage/docs/compmix2.jpg
Keep in mind that the incoming 757 would have looked like this:What are those large spools on the lawn? Why would they be there if a plane had just swept through on the ground?
Hey Steve, what do you make of this:
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa_flts/aa_flts.htm
Some are saying two of the flights never took place, I believe due to/according to BTS records . . . And I believe this is aside from another problem which is that two of the four planes were deregistered a long time before 9/11 and the other two a long time after 9/11, (after people asked about why they hadn't been deregistered). Were these type things something you dealt with or looked at or knew about? If so, how often were those sorts of things wrong?
. . . And I believe this is aside from another problem which is that two of the four planes were deregistered a long time before 9/11 and the other two a long time after 9/11, (after people asked about why they hadn't been deregistered). Were these type things something you dealt with or looked at or knew about? If so, how often were those sorts of things wrong?
This Database says, that the planes were Deregistered on/Reason for Cancellation:
N334AA - 01/14/2002 - Destroyed
N612UA - 09/28/2005 - Cancelled
N644AA - 01/14/2002 - Destroyed
N591UA - 09/28/2005 - Cancelled
I think they possibly got "fixed" . . . I'm not 100% sure on that, but it was my understanding that this wasn't really that debated . . .Not sure you're right about this Reece:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3150324/
Not sure you're right about this Reece:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3150324/
You've accused others of speculation something you've been doing since participating in this thread.People sure are gullible critters.
You've accused others of speculation something you've been doing since participating in this thread.
A few posts ago you linked to a video by a stranger, whom I will add was speculating also; which for some reason you found to be more credible than all of the reports by the 9/11 committee and now you've the gall to call others gullible. Why can't you see you're engaging in the same thinking you've accused others?
So I have to retract some of my speculations. But I always said they were!
This video certainly proves that the jet was descending quite quickly towards the tower, it was almost certainly at high power too, it looks like it reduced the descent rate before hitting the tower. This means that it would be going really fast when it hit! Airliners are really slick, they normally descend at idle thrust, the problem most students have is slowing them down, if they are levelled off when descending, it takes roughly one nautical mile per ten knots to slow keeping idle thrust. (Conservative but I used it at first) The normal limits were definitely exceeded !
I think they were flown by people, even people with little training is possible, they had some time flying around to get used to how it flew, they weren't being asked to do too much. It is tricky though at high speed, as I said in an earlier post, if you don't get lined up a long way out, it is really difficult to maneuver your way back to the place you want to face. Throw in the 'g' and the wind noise at that speed, it's a really new environment for any pilot I would think ? What or who ever was controlling the planes managed to carry out the mission unfortunately, in spite of any difficulties.
I stated earlier in this thread that the top half of the Windsor Hotel in Madrid was steel-framed. It was only about half of the top half (and the steel-framed part completely collapsed due to fire).I challenge any of you to admit to anything you were wrong about!
I stated earlier in this thread that the top half of the Windsor Hotel in Madrid was steel-framed. It was only about half of the top half (and the steel-framed part completely collapsed due to fire).
I admitted my error after Craig pointed it out, but I'll admit it again if that makes you happy.
That is interesting Reece, I think there are issues with the flight manifesto"s as well. Was there ever any security video from the airports identifying the hijackers?
I am going to speculate here, based on the assumption that the correlation between the upgrades of the columns in towers and the impact zones. If it is not a remarkable coincidence, I see no other conclusion that the planes in fact became guided missiles.
Steve might have some input on this, but I don't see how amateur pilots could be so precise. Same with the pentagon, right into the newly reinforced renovations!. Yet another unlikely coincidence? And where was the one that crashed headed? Could it be that the target was intended to be tower 7? Those planes could not have afforded to miss the targets, given the high tech nature and scope, I doubt the vital showpiece would be entrusted to the skills of the pilots actually.
All based on the freaky correlation though. But if true certain conclusions do open up.
It is quite possible those planes were tampered with, rigged. The inconsistencies there may be evidence for something else.
It is the complete vacuum of evidence where their shouldn't be that has caused certain theories to emerge. Even in one of the most heavily surveyed and tightly secured defense installations there is, there is still a massive lack of evidence. That in itself is incredible.
I stated earlier in this thread that the top half of the Windsor Hotel in Madrid was steel-framed. It was only about half of the top half (and the steel-framed part completely collapsed due to fire).
I admitted my error after Craig pointed it out, but I'll admit it again if that makes you happy.
Seasons greeting from your old friend Santa! My, my, Christmas is just two short weeks away, and everyone here at the North Pole can't wait to deliver presents to all you nice boys and girls this year. Yes, Jolly ol' St. Nicholas hopes you're all being as good as can be!
But today, Santa would like to tell you all about something very naughty, something very, very naughty indeed. Dear children, have you not heard? Why, 9/11 was an inside job! Oh, ho, ho, my, yes it was!
I mean, look at the facts, boys and girls! We already know the Bush administration was itching to go to war in Iraq, now, don't we? Yes, indeed we do, my darling ones! The Downing Street memo proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Then you look at the Presidential Daily Briefing of Aug. 6, 2001, the one headlined "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." Ignored! Why, children, they threw that briefing aside like used wrapping paper on Christmas morning, didn't they?
And remember, sweet little ones, Bin Laden never claimed responsibility for the attacks until 2004. Do you know how many years that is, boys and girls? Something was up the government's sleeve, and I'll let you in on a little secret: It wasn't sugar plums, oh, no! No, it was the ties between the bin Laden and Bush families. They've been under the mistletoe for decades, if you catch your old pal Kris Kringle's meaning! I've checked my list twice, and it seems Arbusto Energy, a Bush business, had financial connections to Salem bin Laden, half-brother of Osama. The CIA actually helped create and fund al-Qaeda right around the time Bush Senior was the agency’s director—ho, ho, ho, ol' H.W. stuffed their pockets as fat as a Christmas goose!
Now, as for the towers themselves: The type of steel they used melts at a temperature of about 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit, and as I'm sure all you smart little boys and girls know, jet fuel burns at 1,500 degrees, tops. My darlings, you'd need quite a Yule log to create that extra 1,200 degrees, wouldn't you? Oh, what a glorious sight it would be!
Of course, you do know what they found in the Ground Zero debris, don't you? Would you like St. Nicholas to tell you? Well, then, hop up on his lap and I'll whisper it in your ear: traces of nano-thermite. Does that jingle any bells upstairs? Nano-thermite is an explosive compound, children, capable of making the biggest Christmas cracker you ever saw! So what in the name of Donner and Blitzen was it doing in the world's largest banking complex? Was Lehman Brothers or one of the insurance companies stockpiling explosives? No, children. You find nano-thermite where there's been a controlled demolition. Ever see a controlled demolition, little ones? That's where the whole building plummets straight downward like a plumb bob and every floor is destroyed. Even if the building is struck in the middle.
Oh, dear, perhaps ol' Santa has just gone a little nutty in the head, like dear Mrs. Claus repeatedly likes to claim! Perhaps, much like Mrs. Claus, Santa would be better off pretending the facts don't exist. But you believe, don't you, children? You believe in Santa's theory.
Now, I'm not saying the hijackers weren't naughty. They were very, very naughty indeed. But if you want to really talk naughty, there's not enough coal in Santa's sack for a government that throws its own citizens under the sleigh just to gain political power.
Ho, ho, ho, so many questions dance through Santa's head! What about the six eyewitnesses who saw a low-flying jet immediately after Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville, children? Why was debris from the flight found miles away from the crash site? And why did the BBC incorrectly report that 7 World Trade Center had collapsed moments before it actually did? Talk about a snow job, eh, young ones? Why, it's a veritable winter wonderland!
Perhaps this Christmas, Santa will bring some of you very well-behaved—and discreet—young children some nice, shiny new computers to play with, so you can go to 911truth.org, watchLoose Change on YouTube, and see for yourselves. Because if you ask Santa, the truth needs to come out in order to properly honor the memory of the victims and awaken a duped populace, slumbering away in their cozy beds, living in dreamland. We can close our eyes and drink the government eggnog, or we can raise our voices and demand to know what really happened. Isn't that right, boys and girls?
Well, I've still got a lot of toys to build before Christmas Eve, my little ones, but I'll be visiting you all very soon—ho, ho, ho, that is if I'm not jailed as an enemy combatant for asking simple questions!
Because that's what they fucking do, you know.