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  1. Doug

    Dr. John Fischer, Another Philosopher Tries to Debunk NDEs |431|

    Likewise a debate between Dr Fischer and Dr Long would be most interesting, I hope it can happen. I want nothing more than to be sure that NDE's are truly proof that consciousness can survive bodily death but as a medical doctor my scientific training urges me to be cautious because the...
  2. Doug

    Dr. John Fischer, Another Philosopher Tries to Debunk NDEs |431|

    Frustrating episode to listen to as he could not hear the audio's well. I think reading between the lines he cannot accept NDE's are being "real" because it would undermine his worldview. On the other hand I do agree that our understanding on the brain is fairly primitive, can we be sure the...
  3. Doug

    Dr. Jeffrey Long’s, God and the Afterlife, Science & Spirituality Have Collided |327|

    Thanks Lincoln, It is a ruthless disease and seems to often strike the young, my wife was 54 but had no risk factors. Sorry for your losses too and I hope I too will be convinced we survive and this veil of tears is only a prelude to something better ahead.
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    Dr. Jeffrey Long’s, God and the Afterlife, Science & Spirituality Have Collided |327|

    It's morning in Australia and I've just read through the forum discussion regarding Jeff Long's interview which I listened to a couple of days ago. Thank you for the spirited and intelligent forum discussion, it is fascinating to read and I am impressed by the quality of discussion. I am...
  5. Doug

    Movies: Is Ex Machina ignoring the hard problem of consciousness? |300|

    Surely if an android is subject to its operating system or programing, it can be restrained from doing harm to a human whereas a psychopath will do whatever suits him at the time no matter what harm he causes. I think there is a big difference.
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    Movies: Is Ex Machina ignoring the hard problem of consciousness? |300|

    I can understand why Alex was so dismissive of the possibility that an AI could achieve a human like state of consciousness because if it ever does it would seem to give strong support to the materialistic worldview and support the proposition that consciousness is an emergent property from a...
  7. Doug

    Movies: Is Ex Machina ignoring the hard problem of consciousness? |300|

    People 'fall in love' all the time with other people on the internet, often those people are not who they seem and may be scammers. I'm sure if the AI was sufficiently human like you could fall in love with it
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    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    Fascinating case, I had not read of that before, thanks for the link.
  9. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    Yes, "hard evidence" is in the eye of the beholder, but it would be enough to give the existing paradigm a real shake up.
  10. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    So perhaps another study using different methodology might give some really hard evidence.
  11. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    It seems quite significant to me that all those who actually do the hard research come away as believers and all those who sit on their backsides thinking they are being scientific by ignoring their findings, refuse to. Yes good point but I wonder what Sam Parnia believes now after the Aware...
  12. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    Thanks David, I do voraciously listen to Skeptiko as well as other excellent resources such as Closer to truth. I think I have an open mind, I respect the evidence but do struggle to overcome my scientific materialistic training and understanding how an 'afterlife' or non physical consciousness...
  13. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    Yes thats all well and good but Alex's original question is why neuroscientists don't respect the body of NDE research evidence. I think it is just too great a leap for them to accept that consciousness can persist after bodily death no matter how compelling the evidence because there is no good...
  14. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    Yes that is pretty much what I mean. I am impressed with the evidence of NDE research (and other areas suggesting Brain does not equal mind) but we only have vague speculations as to how consciousness might continue without a physical embodiment. I know Jim Smith listed in an earlier post a...
  15. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    Thanks Judith, that must be of great comfort to you. I have not had any 'spiritually transformative experiences' that you have had so I still have difficulty accepting that there is anything 'over there'. I do believe I have an open mind as I truly want there to be more but I struggle to be...
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    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    True but I suspect the reason neuroscientists don't take the evidence seriously is that there is no current solid hypothesis (at least that I am aware of) of how an afterlife is possible. I think it is only speculation about how consciousness might be woven into the cosmos.
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    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    That is certainly most inspiring and a great credit to you.
  18. Doug

    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    No it doesn't seem fair and personally I think evil and suffering are the most powerful arguments for a materialistic /atheistist worldview. If suffering is part of 'collective growth' then each individual life is meaningless and Alex goes on repeatedly that he does not belive we are biological...
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    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    But doesn't the common theme of nde experiencers of universal love imply a loving intelligence behind it all?
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    What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291|

    It is a good metaphor because whilst those in the tribe who actually saw the aircraft with their own eyes would not doubt its existence, those who did not might question whether it was just their imagination or hallucinations. Thus the issue with NDE's and other manifestations of extended...
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