I don't think it can't but it hardly seems likely when there are committed christians who have had the same experience and it has only strengthened their faith.Ok why do you think it can't be a satanic one
I don't think it can't but it hardly seems likely when there are committed christians who have had the same experience and it has only strengthened their faith.Ok why do you think it can't be a satanic one
Those could be the real experiences with godI don't think it can't but it hardly seems likely when there are committed christians who have had the same experience and it has only strengthened their faith.
Why differentiate?Those could be the real experiences with god
I mean the ones with a pro christian message could be the only ndes that really have God in themWhy differentiate?
I'm not sure if any of them do - I think they are mostly the same as the ones non-christians have. I think others have more knowledge of this than me so I'll back out.I mean the ones with a pro christian message could be the only ndes that really have God in them
How do you do that in life in general?That's what I'm trying to find out
Let me ask this does the Bible say anything about Satan being able to change people the way ndes change people
Let me ask this does the Bible say anything about Satan being able to change people the way ndes change people
There's no text I am aware of that would indicate the influence of malevolent forces results in improved life outcomes. In contrast, the consistent testimony shared by multiple authors is that the virtues develop in a person in direct proportion to one's participation in the divine life. Jesus has already been cited in terms of "by their fruits you will know them," but also:
1 John 4:7 - "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God."
Galatians 5:19-23 - Paul contrasts the "works of the flesh" (jealousy, strife, rage, etc) with the "fruit of the Spirit" (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness...)
John 15:4 - In Jesus' vine metaphor, he declares that a branch cannot bear fruit unless it is rooted in the vine (Jesus as the divine logos)
Oppositely:
1 John 3:8 - "Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil."
Elsewhere in the NT, the results of diabolic influence are: mental and physical illness, life disruption, separation from one's community, and vanity and arrogance.
How else could they be decieved unless the decieving message had love in itUm, sure, but nothing that text says refutes my suggested criteria for discerning malevolent influence.
Please help me
Ok why do you think it can't be a satanic one
Well I guess you have to take your choice:As I've said before the "fruits" could just be part of the deception as to why God would allow this I would say for the same reason he allows all other bad things in the world to happen