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Nice Ram Dass story! I had only heard the first part, not the second. Awesome.
This is a great interview.
This is a great interview.
here's the link (it's in the show notes as well):Alex,
Your original post contains a lot of what I think are references - such as "[Spiral Out 90704]" - how are these meant to be used?
David
It seems to me that there are always people willing to turn a good thing into something bad to turn a profit. Tobacco as it was originally used for traditional ceremonial purposes is not the tobacco of today that has been altered to contain much higher amounts of addictive substances. The same thing goes for marijuana. Today's Marijuana contains much higher amounts of the addictive ingredient, THC, than it did back in the 70s, but negligible amounts of the medicinal ingredient, CBD. That was found to be true of both illegal marijuana and marijuana purchased in a legal medical dispensary.I think it's fair game... but I get yr point as well.
I have a entire show coming up dedicated to the conspiratorial part of this topic.
Study after study points to the attributes of combining THC and CBD. The science isn't settled, but research suggests CBD can mitigate some of the negative effects that can happen with high-THC weed, including anxiety, paranoia, and psychosis.
CBD is also the focus of much research on possible medicinal benefits in treating everything from childhood epilepsy to schizophrenia and arthritis.
here's the link (it's in the show notes as well):
I remember having a discussion with artist friends years ago about how some artists use drugs to get them to that place where they find inspiration and can create art, while others do not. I've always felt the drugs were a kind of short cut, but that it was never the drugs that took you to the state of inspiration. You take yourself to that state of being; the drugs do nothing but make you stoned. It's the belief that you need the drugs to get there that makes you need the drugs to get there.I have a problem with the idea that any naturally occurring or synthetic chemical compound offers a more authentic perspective on ultimate reality. Terminally ill people are given opiates to mask the worst symptoms of their condition, but no one claims the ensuing trip is anything but a palliative second best to clear thinking and good health. If a drug exists in conscious reality, it is occluding or changing a perspective within conscious reality, not replacing conscious reality.
Perhaps I'm not a psychonaut? I find normal consciousness a three ring circus without needing to experience the trapeze and hire wire act up close. Some people get addicted to war zones, but that isn't a good reason to continue fighting wars.
Yes, there's probably something in that. Discussions of drugs steer dangerously close to materialist interpretations of reality, where a thing changes an individual, rather than the other way round.I remember having a discussion with artist friends years ago about how some artists use drugs to get them to that place where they find inspiration and can create art, while others do not. I've always felt the drugs were a kind of short cut, but that it was never the drugs that took you to the state of inspiration. You take yourself to that state of being; the drugs do nothing but make you stoned. It's the belief that you need the drugs to get there that makes you need the drugs to get there.
Hmmmm - audiences seem to get softened up by observing a few illusions and can then be told anything at all!
The curious thing is, that these drugs bind to receptors - you are flipping a few switches in your brain!I have a problem with the idea that any naturally occurring or synthetic chemical compound offers a more authentic perspective on ultimate reality. Terminally ill people are given opiates to mask the worst symptoms of their condition, but no one claims the ensuing trip is anything but a palliative second best to clear thinking and good health. If a drug exists in conscious reality, it is occluding or changing a perspective within conscious reality, not replacing conscious reality.
I'm fond of my inhibitors. They prevent my plans for world domination.The curious thing is, that these drugs bind to receptors - you are flipping a few switches in your brain!
From the physicalist point of view, your brain must have the potential to create these weird realities available at the flip of a switch!
From another point of view, these drugs flip switches that turn off the mind control aspect of the brain - letting it expand.
I have never done anything stronger than cannabis cakes (I don't smoke, so I don't imagine smoking a joint would be a very pleasant experience). Probably mainly due to cowardice!
David
am in contact with. hope to have on Skeptiko next yr.
am in contact with. hope to have on Skeptiko next yr.
Sir John Eccles
(Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine)
Sir John Eccles was a neurophysiologist who won the Nobel prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1963 for his work on the synapse. He did not believe that the brain produces consciousness. In Evolution of the Brain: Creation of the Self (1989) he wrote:
I maintain that the human mystery is incredibly demeaned by scientific reductionism, with its claim in promissory materialism to account eventually for all of the spiritual world in terms of patterns of neuronal activity. This belief must be classed as a superstition ... we have to recognize that we are spiritual beings with souls existing in a spiritual world as well as material beings with bodies and brains existing in a material world.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Carew_Eccles
I was not aware that psychedelics were popular in the underground criminal culture you describe. Do you have information on this?The karmic consequences of financing drug gangs that run child prostitution rings, undermine governments in foreign countries, and commit other horrible crimes are part of the spiritual implications.
I was not aware that psychedelics were popular in the underground criminal culture you describe. Do you have information on this?
I am wondering if Cody or anyone following this has done any work on so called herbal mind enhancers - Bacopa, ginkgo, Rhodiola, ashgawanda, morenga and the like. Anyone?Cody Noconi, Can Entheogens Lead to Deep Spirituality? |360|
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Cody Noconi of the Psilly Rabbits Podcast on whether entheogens and psychedelics lead to deep spirituality.
photo by: Skeptiko
[Joe Rogan] My first DMT experience changed everything I thought about the world.
The Joe Rogan podcast you’re listening to is hugely popular…
[Graham Hancock] So that’s the aliens, an utterly alien realm, filled with alien intelligences who communicate, and of course, the skeptics say, “Oh, it’s all just made up in your brain, but we don’t know that.”
This interview with Graham Hancock drew millions of listeners.
It’s quite a statement regarding how far our culture has come in trying to understand the relationship between psychedelics and consciousness…
[Spiral Out 90704] Let’s go to YouTube, Spiral Out 90704 coming at you.
But this next clip may be even more remarkable.
[Spiral Out 90704] In one of my videos, there was a comment left asking me if I could make a video explaining why I don’t use entheogens any longer.
It’s from SpiralOut90704 and was published for the benefit of his 342 subscribers. It’s titled, ‘Why I no longer use entheogens’, and while the numbers may not be as impressive as the Joe Rogan interview with Graham Hancock, the thousands of trip reports available on YouTube may be an even more significant statement about what’s going with entheogens in our culture.
But what does it all mean and what are we supposed to do? Graham?
[Graham Hancock] Can we use changes in consciousness to understand the majestic complexity of the universe in which we live? And I think the answer is definitely yes.
SpiralOut90704?
[Spiral Out 90704] People need to understand that the mind is a very fragile thing, it can be bent in so many strange directions and some people’s mind can’t be bent as much as others and remain intact.
Stick around for a show on entheogens and my interview with Cody Noconi.
Coming up next on Skeptiko…