When I first encountered p zombies, I thought they were supposed to be us. That is, I thought the difficulty would lie in distinguishing ourselves from a p zombie (which means the p zombie includes "thoughts and talk about consciousness). I see that with the Michael Graziano interview this idea is in play, where the p zombie's thoughts and talk about consciousness are the result of giving the p zombie a "theory of mind". Our consciousness then becomes a story we tell ourselves, after the fact, to rationalize our actions. We haven't ever demonstrated that our thoughts preceed our actions, right? I'm having trouble figuring out how we would be able to demonstrate this, though.But if you make a physical copy of a human and leave behind consciousness (and that's another issue), then cannot detect any difference whatsoever, it suggests that the consciousness was epiphenomenal. In particular, the consciousness had nothing to do with the human's thoughts and talk about consciousness.
Because those physical processes have downstream effects.
~~ Paul
Linda