BotchCat
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This is a problem for me. Scientists are human with the same cognitive ability and problems of non-scientists. Their own prejudices can easily play a role in their judgements, often they are unaware they are doing so.
Do they really read each other's stuff?
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This is a problem for me. Scientists are human with the same cognitive ability and problems of non-scientists. Their own prejudices can easily play a role in their judgements, often they are unaware they are doing so.
radicalpolitik
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That I don't deny, hence some of the rather unjustified scathing attitude towards parapsychology research.
BotchCat
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Sometimes people look to science for approval...it's like some twisted codependent relationship. I was beaten with the science cudgel in school for years...none of it ever seemed organic to me. I'm not saying it's without value, because that's not the case. I'm speaking of things that science often deflects or treats in a very unscientific way.
I have the opposite feeling. The well-written negative reviews tend to be realistic, while many of the positive reviews tend to be testimonials.
~~ Paul
BotchCat
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Agreed. I try to take it on a case by case basis these days.
Absolutely trumps my experiences. For example, I have much less faith in my own memory than I used to. This is also due to a couple of experiences of learning that closely-held memories were wrong.
~~ Paul
I'd imagine, but what are you talking about?
People don't know about the good stuff because its tucked away in fringe journals. Every so often you end up with a Bem paper in a mainstream journal that gets torn apart, and you basically never hear about the MRI/EEG studies. Yet, the latter seem an order of magnitude more interesting.
I'd just say, don't admit to any progressive senility. It'll be used against you.
I had one particular incorrect memory for decades. It involves a woman at college getting her hair wrapped around the drive shaft of an IBM Selectric typewriter. When I verified the memory with another woman, I had everything right except for the actual woman. It was the one I was verifying it with, not the woman I remembered. Fairly good memory with one human substitution.
~~ Paul
malf
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Unless she had misremembered...
That's possible, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since she was the "victim." If she is wrong, however, that is quite weird.
~~ Paul
malf
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Yeah, I was teasing a little... But I suspect the tendancy is for folk to promote themselves to a more central role in the narrative.
Jim_Smith
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Psychiatrist and psychoanalist Carl Jung also had an NDE and believed it was a real phenomenon and that consciousness continues to have existence beyond space and time.
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers#researchers_jung
Neurosurgeon Eben Alexander, Psychiatrist and psychoanalist Carl Jung, and military remoteviewer Joe McMoneagle, all had NDEs and all have some qualification or expertise that gives authority to their opinion. They all thought NDEs are caused by out-of-the-body consciousness. Alexander and McMoneagle say the NDE is proof of the afterlife, Jung said that consciousness continues to have an existence beyond space and time.
http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/2014/04/notable-near-death-experiencers-prove.html
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Sciborg_S_Patel
Carl Jung seemed to have had a number of paranormal experiences in his life.
IIRC his mother claimed to see spirits as well?
IIRC his mother claimed to see spirits as well?
Obiwan
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No you don't understand. It's all fraud and hallucination. If there is a veridical element it's misremembered or retrofitted. The very fact that the experiences are so 'real' simply underlines the fact that they are not real. By the power of Pythagoras' theorem and the average square root of a binomial sequence I declare them null and void. Now recite Ohm's law backwards and ask for forgiveness.
