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I wrote:
Anita Moorjani:
Nanci L. Danison:
Thanks Ian.
....yes, though I'm afraid that I'm not convinced by either passage, the skeptic in me just isn't that keen on the people that are all "love and light lalala" :D
Maybe you're right, I just want the experience of fretting ! ;) But it's not really that I fret, rather that I'm excited by looking for an answer that fits.
Anita Moorjani is high in my estimation at the moment, because she recently had a live session on Facebook and it was gold dust, every point she made and every question that she answered hit the spot in the 29mins she was live. Really enjoyed the session, I sent it to my mum as I though that she was her circumstances were exactly described in one of Anita's problem scenarios. She loved it. Strange because I never normally listen to her Facebook stuff...mmm.
It may be that these paragraphs above are ultimately correct, at some level we are God, I can agree, but after that is where I part with the ladies as the passages stand. We're not there yet. I don't think that when we die we go back to being perfect, or as perfect as the light can be ( I don't think God is perfect, just a hell of a lot closer to perfection than we are). There are many reports from the afterlife that we review our lives in detail and spend a great deal of effort and time(if time exists elsewhere) planning our next life. Why would we need to do that if we were already 'the light'?
Maybe we are, but we get separated from God while we are growing? But what use would that be if the ultimate aim is to reach a level that we're already at? I don't think we can begin to understand the full picture, though maybe we are allowed to enter the light for a while after we pass, so that a loving God and his 'sons and daughters' can reacquaint themselves before once again becoming separated?
I think that we have a serious job to do for God, I don't think it's just a fun park. The lesson is that it can be a fun park if we make the right choices, but until we reach much higher levels of consciousness, we remain separate from the light most of the time. That's my creative ramblings on the subject for this moment in time, I bet somewhere Gods aware of my frustrations/limitations/weaknesses but also my determination/spirit/love of life and this makes him laugh deep in his belly. I wouldn't like to be perfect - it's boring!
As always I return to Manjit who constantly reminds me of what our 'truth' might be:
"And I can't help but feel that the universe, reality, consciousness, being, divinity or whatever.......is just so much more mysterious, awesome, magical, astonishing, incomprehensible, mind-shattering than anything humankind has conceived of."
There's God talking - right there.
It's all good!
This forum is my safe place. It truly can raise consciousness.
Again I feel the need to radiate gratefulness.:D
I wrote:
Steve, my 2 cents. (And I'm just picking this up because you often come back to this question.) My conclusion drawn from deep NDErs is: it's all good, no matter what you do, and you shouldn't fret about it (unless you want the experience of fretting!). :)The problem is that I'm too full of ego. Once again, I'm back to that same question about ego. Should I be authentic and get involved, pissing off my pals, or try very hard to 'stay calm' and be happy just to observe?
Anita Moorjani:
I would want you to know that every part of you is magnificent - your ego, intellect, body, and spirit. It's who you are - a beautiful product of this Universe's creation. Every aspect of you is perfect. There's nothing to let go, nothing to forgive, nothing to attain. You already are everything you need to be. (Dying to Be Me, 2012, p. 182-183).
Nanci L. Danison:
Light Beings do not inhabit humans in order to evolve spiritually. Light Beings do not need to evolve because we are Source. We define Source as the highest level possible. What higher status could we possibly attain? Human life offers nothing other than learning what human life is like. (Answers from the Afterlife, 2016, p. 95).
Then Steve posted:
Thanks Ian.
....yes, though I'm afraid that I'm not convinced by either passage, the skeptic in me just isn't that keen on the people that are all "love and light lalala" :D
Maybe you're right, I just want the experience of fretting ! ;) But it's not really that I fret, rather that I'm excited by looking for an answer that fits.
Anita Moorjani is high in my estimation at the moment, because she recently had a live session on Facebook and it was gold dust, every point she made and every question that she answered hit the spot in the 29mins she was live. Really enjoyed the session, I sent it to my mum as I though that she was her circumstances were exactly described in one of Anita's problem scenarios. She loved it. Strange because I never normally listen to her Facebook stuff...mmm.
It may be that these paragraphs above are ultimately correct, at some level we are God, I can agree, but after that is where I part with the ladies as the passages stand. We're not there yet. I don't think that when we die we go back to being perfect, or as perfect as the light can be ( I don't think God is perfect, just a hell of a lot closer to perfection than we are). There are many reports from the afterlife that we review our lives in detail and spend a great deal of effort and time(if time exists elsewhere) planning our next life. Why would we need to do that if we were already 'the light'?
Maybe we are, but we get separated from God while we are growing? But what use would that be if the ultimate aim is to reach a level that we're already at? I don't think we can begin to understand the full picture, though maybe we are allowed to enter the light for a while after we pass, so that a loving God and his 'sons and daughters' can reacquaint themselves before once again becoming separated?
I think that we have a serious job to do for God, I don't think it's just a fun park. The lesson is that it can be a fun park if we make the right choices, but until we reach much higher levels of consciousness, we remain separate from the light most of the time. That's my creative ramblings on the subject for this moment in time, I bet somewhere Gods aware of my frustrations/limitations/weaknesses but also my determination/spirit/love of life and this makes him laugh deep in his belly. I wouldn't like to be perfect - it's boring!
As always I return to Manjit who constantly reminds me of what our 'truth' might be:
"And I can't help but feel that the universe, reality, consciousness, being, divinity or whatever.......is just so much more mysterious, awesome, magical, astonishing, incomprehensible, mind-shattering than anything humankind has conceived of."
There's God talking - right there.
It's all good!
This forum is my safe place. It truly can raise consciousness.
Again I feel the need to radiate gratefulness.:D