Discussion in 'Skeptiko Shows' started by Alex, Mar 29, 2016.
Or maybe their predictions would've been more accurate if not politically motivated?
But of course - the conspiracy theory! There would have been very little point in your advising the world's scientists, when they were engaged in a vast conspiracy to get their predictions wrong, and thereby convince everyone that ... hang on a minute ... let me think ... they made predictions that they knew wouldn't be correct because ... hmm ... I give up. Was it some kind of complicated double bluff? Mental control by extraterrestrials? Witchcraft?
It is a strawman to present the conspiracy as all these scientists agreeing to lie to us. It is stigmergy, momentum, natural paranoia, and the scientists themselves are under the influence of mass mind control. Why did the scientists in the "hide the decline" scandal try to hide the decline in temps? Probably because their belief is that if they don't convince the world of CAGW then CAGW will happen. Additionally, what sort of selection process goes into finding the scientists to contribute to the IPCC? Were they chosen blindly or were they chosen based on their position on AGW? And how does the stigmergy in the academic and scientific establishment filter out the dissenting view? It must be difficult for some to have the courage to dissent against the declared consensus when colleagues and government authorities are calling for the arrest or even execution of "deniers".
Sure. You know better than all of them put together.
So all these scientists are under mass mind control, but you've somehow escaped it?
That's, pretty arrogant. I think you need to apply more skepticism to your own beliefs.
The problem is that for people who don't have the sense to realise their limitations, the free availability of information through the Internet really is a curse. They think that because they have access to the same information, they understand as much as anyone else - or even, if they're arrogant enough, more than anyone else!
No I'm just lucky that my life circumstances have afforded me the opportunity to escape it. Also, I quit watching TV about 13 years ago. And 9/11 truth set me on an "alternative path" about 10 years ago.
It's fairly easy to manipulate people and the study of manipulation is a broad science. Tons of books have been written on it. Marketing makes profitable use of it. Naturally the groups most interested in knowing how to manipulate people are the rich and powerful and those interested in controlling others and especially the clandestine services. Libertarians and anarchists and alternative media are interested in it for the purpose of throwing off controls. Scientists in various technical professions typically have their noses buried in a particular field of expertise and strive for achievement within narrower limits and are not polymaths with diverse interests that wander into the science of mind control.
Haha... Damn the Internet bringing a free flow of information to the masses! And damn Martin Luther and the Gutenberg press for mass printing the Bible in the common languages so that people could recognize the distortions and corruption in the Catholic Church! Let's get back to controlling the flow of information to the layman so the experts can get back to more effectively ruling the rabble like they did in the Middle Ages!
Exactly. Let the annointed guide us, the unwashed ignorant masses, to eternal happiness, for they know better than us how to get there. it's Huxley's "Brave New World". The internet really spoiled the NWO architects' plans. Kissenger, Brzezinski and others have been complaining about easy access to information for years. They are doing their best to start censoring internet. McAfee is developping internet 2, in case they succeed.
I think the climate is changing: Climate Change. My view on discussions about global conspiracies is best summed up here:
Let's finally draw this thread to a close - it is generating heat but very little light.
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