This post exactly. Although I actually soured on Louv during one of those other podcast interviews...(which ironically also included an interview on the Tin Foil Hat podcast -- a podcast by stand-up comedians who enjoy talking about -- and generally give credence to -- conspiracy theories. (I don't think they realized that Louv has nothing but contempt for their world-views)). And I'm just not sure how a man (or guy? Guy!!!) who claims to have written a book about "occult forces that have shaped society" (his own words) doesn't believe in "conspiracy theories"? Isn't THAT a conspiracy theory?