Every single human desire, institution or idea was at some point manipulated and perverted in some way. According to Joseph Atwill we should be paralyzed at this point, because nothing is untouched. Maybe we should not listen to him at all, it is very likely he is some undercover agent muddying the waters, like many before him. Paranoia is a dead end, even if there is truth to many of the conspiracy theories. Joseph Atwill needs compassion and help, not disclosure. Regarding hanging up the phone, you mention that quite often Alex. Yes, you do hang it up, process the message and then you pick it up again. That's what every single practice is doing. There is a lot of prejudice and elitism in this attitude. There is another relevant quote: the medium is the message.