Bucky
Member
Problem is ... if we negate our primary and most direct experience of being we might as well throw away everything else, including the notion of the "consciousness = illusion" theory.I've explained the "illusion" several times in this week's show thread. I'm guessing you may have me on ignore.
If you think 'someone' is being 'fooled' you are trying to force something immaterial into a physical model.
Fwiw, I don't think you can escape some sort of 'illusion" whichever consciousness model you want to put your coin on.
That's the most fundamental experience we can have. Everything else doesn't even come close.
All of the correlations we make through theories, logic, experiments, ... are a much weaker experiences than the "cogito ergo sum". We can invent all sorts of strict scientific methodologies to discover the outside world, striving to remove all possible sources of errors and trying to replicate innumerable amount of times... it will always be a much more indirect and error-prone experience than the direct sense of being.
From there we start investigating the outside world and we may or may not fool ourselves. If you negate the starting point the whole castle crumbles.
I think it should be recognized that the self projecting in the outside world and conjecturing it's own non-existence seems like a pathological mental contortion. Or more likely the echo of primordial ego-driven fears.
Maybe this is why meditative practices usually lead to a very different realization of the self and its place in the world.