David Bailey
Member
I think he recognises things that others miss - such as the fact that you have to reach out to try to solve problems like NK, and that exporting most of the jobs (aka Free Trade) is a recipe for misery among the section of the population known in the US as the deplorables.This is where you continue to miss the point, or at least my point.
I think people with ambition for power often want to be "remembered" and specifically in some type of radiant light. However, this is not synonymous with ethical purity or altruism and seems to be more egocentric in terms of source. There is, literally, no evidence that Trump is altruistically motivated in anything he's doing.
By far the greatest disrespect I see right now, is disrespect towards a duly elected President.His persona surely seems to be screaming more about his ego than anything else. So, whether he ends up being effective somehow or not I simply can not get past the behavior. The disrespect.
Well reporters have been extraordinarily rude to him, and he gives as good as he gets. I am sure that if you were to meet him, and not be rude to him, he would be polite in return. You see Jim and I see a man who almost certainly did not collude with Russia, but an attempt was made to frame him with that accusation (you should keep an eye on the #QAnon thread). Doesn't that amount to Treason? Wouldn't you be angry if someone tried to frame you?The rudeness. The myriad of other negative attributes of which I am attempting to teach my children the polar opposite. In this case I do not see the ends justifying the means.
I mean sure teach your children to behave better, but really this amounts to staying out of politics. I remember my mother's advice to my brother (who expressed an interest in politics) to keep out of it because it is a dirty game. If I had children, I'd probably give them the same advice
The fact that a democrat may be as bad, or an even worse actor, has no bearing for me at all. I will certainly use those negative examples with my kids too as I think there are examples on both sides of the political aisle.
Well we both agree, there are examples on both sides, but the extraordinarily high-minded attitude of the left, is I think analogous to US preachers - simply not real. They will talk about racism while calling someone a 'brown slave', promote #MeToo while physically and psychologically abusing women. Doesn't all that make you wonder just how much of the political Left is genuine?
You also need to think - how many senior Democrats really knew about this guy, if Trump - a private citizen back in 2013 - felt confident to put out a tweet like that? A large number of Democrats have clearly agreed - actively or passively - to try to force out DT by whatever means, although he is basically doing no more than implement the policies that he campaigned on. Back then, they had a chance to campaign on their policies, and didn't manage to persuade enough voters of their views. In normal times, they would have drawn in after defeat to work out where they went wrong - not attack the man selected by the people.
For some reason almost all the media are heavily biassed towards the Democrats (i.e. not just anti-Trump) because they could investigate some of the senior Democrats. I mean, a political party that is not 'policed' by the media will very rapidly go bad.
David