Pizzagate. Plus, Ex-FBI Undercover Agent Bob Hamer |357|

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  1. Charlie Primero

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    Thanks for revisiting this thread. I have been meaning to post this article about the "endemic" of sexual abuse and predation in the "charity" sector. Although the MSM will never go there, it dances around the edges of the deeper truth -- and certainly makes the allegations against the Clinton Foundation in Haiti a bit harder to dismiss/deny.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/30/uk/sexual-abuse-aid-sector-uk-report-intl/index.html
     
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    May we at once stop dancing around the edges of the deeper truth.

    That we are still dismissing the Clintons in any way is exasperating. That we are still listening to the BS newest side-tactic that now also includes the supposed 'free internet' is just so disgusting I don't see how anyone stomachs this at all. Now the latest diversion is Alex Jones against 'et al' good grief almighty, one diversion after another like a tennis match. I suppose it will take another 1000 years before we get what's happening, that's how it feels to me at this turtle's pace of non-justice.
     
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    Yes -- it's staggering that so many remain willfully ignorant -- and dangerously passive. Thought this Caitlin Johnstone article was spot on.

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/0...ent-corporate-censorship-is-state-censorship/

    So-called liberals (and I can't even call myself that anymore) don't seem to mind at all when big mouthed Alex Jones gets censored, since he's associated with the alt right and does spew a lot of Trump 4D chess rubbish -- but what about the censoring of the anti-war commentators? Eerie, disturbing, telling SILENCE. Chris Hedges was right: the real liberal class is dead.

    I wish everyone would read this Aussie reporter. She seems to be a voice of sanity among the otherwise bought and sold Empire-supporting machinery that calls itself journalism.

    I just started watching the Hulu series A Handmaid's Tale (I read the book years ago in college), and am just floored by how many truths are being revealed in this series (e.g., digital currencies being used to control the population and cut off dissenters, endless digital surveillance, religious fundamentalism being used for political power/expediency, the wealthy haves completely dominating/abusing the have-nots (in this series, anyone who is not on board with the new regime, but of course women especially). Yet, people sit in their living rooms watching this -- and don't even see that they are already in the boiling pot themselves.
     
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    I think the internet is still very free - think of this forum, and of plain old fashioned email - but within it certain corporations have made 'products' like Facebook and Twitter which certainly aren't free, and I am not a member of either. I don't listen to the US MSM (other than Fox News and occasionally some 'Alt-Right' news sites plus RT), and even the BBC News is becoming unbearable to listen to. I hope it is becoming obvious to people, just how manipulated the BBC has become. The BBC used to be famous for telling the truth to communist eastern Europe - well it may not have been perfect back then, but now it has become absurd.

    Yes - their favourite approach is to somehow distract attention from the real issues - over and over!

    David
     
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    Thousands of Child Predators Arrested

    https://abc13.com/feds-arrest-2300-alleged-child-predators-in-sting-operation/3614067/


    "WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Thousands of suspects accused of producing child pornography or committing child sexual abuse are now off the streets after a federal crackdown on internet sex crimes.

    The U.S. Department of Justice said Operation Broken Heart was conducted during the months of March, April and May 2018.

    More than 2,300 alleged child predators were arrested after investigators followed up on more than 25,200 complaints of crimes against children.

    Task force officials also identified 383 children who suffered recent, ongoing or historical sexual abuse or who were forced into the production of child pornography."

    I wonder why CNN barely mentions this this huge operation, but will devote 24/7 non-stop coverage to NFL millionaires' relationship with the National Anthem.
     
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    I do enjoy this forum and email, to be sure, but they are most certainly being monitored by AI and all we say worked into algorithms used to further the censorship and other agendas. I use gmail and get ads based on my personal mails to others! And the search engines have been completely compromised based on sponsorship. I know I should switch emails, but I seriously doubt anything is private anymore.

    Sad to hear that about the BBC, nothing is sacred.
     
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    I've heard this is an excellent series, now even more motivated to watch it thanks.

    Not to get too off topic, but I found this to be a good YT vid where this woman is reading from an old Jesuit book on the specific targeting of women, specifically on swindling widows out of the their property. Disgusting stuff.

     
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    I expect lots of things are being monitored, but I think it is very easy to get paranoid about AI. AI is really predicated on us all being biological robots - so AI can be the equivalent constructed with software! AI had about a decade of wild hype starting in 1980, and then the whole idea faded into an embarrassed silence. I have heard nothing to suggest this will be any different. Even back then, the real problem was not lack of computer power, but lack of ideas! I predict self driving cars will flop (or maybe crash is a better expression - indeed some have already) and something similar will happen in other sectors. Obviously that doesn't prevent software monitoring for particular words or phrases, but then you need an army of humans to read the flagged articles and decide what to do about them!

    Maybe the idea of AI is being used to scare people - if you write something 'bad' an AI is bound to catch you out.

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    That podcast makes Pizzagate seem a lot more plausible. There was a reference to this remarkable event that seems to have been barely reported:

    https://thegrio.com/2018/06/07/sex-...es-160-children-some-as-young-as-3-years-old/

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    No doubt! But, it is scary what it's capable of right now.

    https://www.technocracy.news/chinas...cks-11-million-flights-4-million-train-trips/

    "In China, punishment awaits the non-conformist and thanks to total surveillance and AI monitoring and predicting behavior, they know exactly who they are. Re-education camps are not needed any more: “discredited people become bankrupt.”

    In combination with facial recognition software these folks are being driven to the margins of society and I absolutely believe this is the goal for us as well.
     
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    It is never clear how much of this is hype - remember AI is absolutely famous for hype. Here is something about facial recognition:
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    I do agree, but! You see this is where understanding the intentions comes into play. That data you site is already 10 years old. If the goal is control, and they keep moving toward that goal, how long until they meet it?

    Maybe there is a lot of hot air and ego at work here, and hype, but my question would be, what's stopping them? Who is stopping them from their aims, or even questioning them? Folks just jump right on board with whatever comes down the pipeline, whether or not it's in their best interest ultimately. When you can see the patterns we've been discussing here, the corporations who are set on controlling free speech and varied opinions and are effectively doing that now, what's the next step, in your opinion? At what point do they say, ok, we've proven we can do it, now let's undo it, b/c it's not very popular with a tiny minority of conspiracy theorists and naysayers?

    And why do you think the establishment would want to give the accurate data sets to the general public? When we understand that science has been corrupted by money and agenda and we on this site question the materialist direction they still seem to be heading, why trust them in this one area?
     
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    Sorry - I hadn't noticed the date, but I did hear something much more recently about problems with face recognition in practice.
    I totally agree, the intentions are not good, whether the stuff actually works is another matter. They would say that all this is to counter terrorism, but I can't help feeling that they could have given a lot more thought before:

    a) Selling weapons to the Middle East (or anywhere really).
    b) Attacking countries in the Middle East.
    c) Opening our borders to 'refugees' many of which did not even come from war torn regions, and were mostly young men.

    I have to wonder if terrorism has become the excuse to create a very controlled society.

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    Ya think?!
     
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    It would be disgusting if it were true, but is it? A variety of references I've looked at declare it to be a forgery. Have you looked into this question yourself?
     
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    Imagine that. An FBI Atlanta Office operation with 38 other LEO agencies.

    160 children saved.

    150 arrests.

    ...and not a peep about it from CNN which is based in Atlanta.

    https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q="Operation+Safe+Summer"+site:cnn.com

    Yet, suggest that news of THOUSANDS of Pedogate arrests are being under-reported, and you will be called a Conspiracy Kook.

    Type "Pedogate" into a search engine and the first two pages of results will tell you how it's not true.
     
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    I wasn't quite sure if all the arrests were over a short period, but even so, it staggered me. I understand CNN, which is based in Atlanta, was particularly reluctant to report it!

    My understanding is that the much maligned Trump administration is prioritising police action against organised paedophilia. Anyone want to stand up and say he is wrong to do so?

    David
     

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