The Council of Nine Megathread

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Anyone interested in The Council of Nine and it's many relations can gather material in this thread.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/council_of_nine_fortean.htm
Wow. I particularly liked this little gem:
Tom, in The Only Planet of Choice, chooses his words carefully as he explains that all the races of the Earth were seeded from space-gods - except one, the "indigenous race", the blacks. He is very careful to urge us not to make an issue out of this. After all, it's not the black race's fault that they have no divine spark like the rest of us.
I just...don't even know what to say to that.

What is this Council of the Nine? I've never heard of it.
 
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"here's a brief history of one of the most bizarre and frustratingly elusive offerings in the High Strangeness catalog.

The Nine, aka The Council of Nine are alleged channeled beings who claim to be the extraterrestrials that the ancient Egyptians worshipped as gods. It's not entirely clear if they are wholly discarnate or computer intelligences, since they've been described as both. The man of the center of the story-- at least for its first 25 years-- is Andrija Puharich, a mad genius in the Nikola Tesla mold who worked for the military and the CIA and "discovered" Israeli psychic Uri Geller (or fraud, depending on your personal inclination) who himself seemed to be involved with Israeli intelligence."

http://secretsun.blogspot.ca/2013/06/secret-star-trek-part-2-unknown-nine.html
 
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SRI and Esalan also involved.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine/vol9/articles/desb2.shtml

The Nine were first channeled in 1952 by an Asian mystic at Puharich's laboratory. Puharich later formed the Round Table Foundation purportedly to continue receiving transmissions from the Nine via other channelers. The foundation was disbanded in 1958, but channeling continued at Puharich's laboratory. Prominently associated with Pucharich in this venture were New Age guru Dr. Jim Hurtak and convicted felon Eira Einhorn. The Esalen Institute and the Stamford Research Institute were also involved. This should have raised a very large red flag, since both institutes have participated in mind-control research (Charles Manson was an Esalen visitor).
 
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Here is Gordon White's take:

http://runesoup.com/2012/05/the-seance-that-changed-america/


NASA is weird.
We know that. It’s an on-paper civil organisation that was originally run by a large number of the 7,000 Nazis put to work in America at the end of the war.
And despite having an ostensibly non-military remit, the organisation picked up the pieces of US space strategy from the military.
Space was ‘owned’ by the military for over ten years before the creation of NASA.
The military’s own OSI was in charge of investigating the Maury Island incident, for example.
This incident occurred in 1947; the very same year as the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting, Roswell, the creation of the CIA and the creation of the Department of the Air Force. (Remember that coincidence is things co-inciding.)
One of the OSI’s UFO investigators was a man sometimes called Jack Martin… who also happened to be a bishop in a weird, fake church known as the American Orthodox Catholic Church or AOCC. (As was J Edgar Hoover.)
The AOCC has only bishops, no priests and no congregations. It appears in the FBI files relating to the JFK assassinations because basically everyone orbiting the main suspects was a member of a fake church whose bishops would investigate UFO incidents.
In the video below, researcher Peter Levenda talks about how the only building he has ever been able to find relating to this mysterious, fake church was in the Bronx. As I watched through it on the weekend, the penny dropped and landed in a weird corner of my brain.

This is the same mysterious group of fake priests described in Dead Names who accidentally attended Bobby Kennedy’s funeral and -oh, I don’t know- wrote the fucking Simonomicon.
That’s when it occurred to me this fascinating presenter wasn’t letting on all he knew. (But you should always know your audience so no judgement.)
One way or another, the Necronomicon story just got crazier. Because these bishops are also connected via a number of weird post-war figures with a really bizarre séance that happened in a farmhouse in Maine in 1952, involving a group of beings calling themselves The Nine.
(And if you want to see where these events tie in with the Whisky Rant then watch the other worthwhile video from the same series. Make it a weekend project.)
The Nine
The man at the centre of this séance was Andrija Puharich, US Army Captain and author of a government paper on the weaponisation of ESP. And this is the guy that is moving in the same murky circles as bishops Jack Martin and Fred Crisman.
The farmhouse in question was owned by his bizarro Round Table Foundation which appears to have received funding from the CIA.
Puharich first gathered together these nine people on a warm night in early June. But the most interesting results were actually achieved in New Year’s Eve of the same year.
And it’s a line-up that positively defines “could not make this up”. The group included:
Arthur Young, who invented the Bell helicopter. However at the end of WWII he abandoned military aviation to concentrate full-time on the paranormal.
Arthur’s wife, Ruth… previously of the Forbes dynasty. Her son, Michael, would get a job at Bell Aerospace through her and Arthur’s influence. (Michael’s wife got Lee Harvey Oswald his job at the book depository. She was learning Russian from Oswald’s wife who was living with her in Irving, Texas. Oh, and her father worked for a CIA front called the Agency for International Development. Lee Harvey Oswald left the coffee company in New Orleans, saying to his co-workers he was “going to work for NASA.” After the assassination, two other coffee company employees get jobs at NASA. Just saying.)
Mary Bancroft; of the Bancroft dynasty who would much later sell the Dow Jones and Wall Street Journal to Murdoch. She also happened to be the mistress of the then-CIA chief. (The one JFK fired after the Bay Of Pigs after saying he was also going to break up the CIA… who conveniently went on to investigate JFK’s death. Just saying.)
Marcella Du Pont of the Du Pont family.
Alice Bouverie who was born into the Astor dynasty. (Her father died on the Titanic and her first husband was a Czarist prince who would work for the OSS during WWII.)
Here’s what happened at the séance:
These gods, who were nine in number as well, were part of one great, creator god known as Atum. The other gods consisted of Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Seth, Nephthys, and sometimes Horus.
Communication with these entities was handled by the medium, an Indian gentleman referred to as Dr. D.G. Vinod, who slipped into a trance state at 12:15 AM and began speaking as ‘the Nine’ by 12:30. Afterwards Dr. Vinod would claim to have no memory of the conversation that preceded between the Ennead Nine and their human counterparts.
During the course of the seance the mystical Nine informed the human nine that they would be in charge of bringing about a mystical renaissance on Earth. From there the Nine ventured into quasi-scientific, philosophical constructs that eventually led to the acknowledgement that they, the Grand Ennead, were in fact extraterrestrial beings living in an immense spaceship hovering invisibly over the planet and that the assembled congregation had been selected to promote their agenda on Earth.
Not a bad collection of people to pull together if you wanted to promote a specific agenda over the second half of the twentieth century. Untold riches and connective power in one farmhouse. In fact, you have to wonder what percentage of American wealth was controlled by people related to the attendees.
Writing about the face on Mars and its relation to a descendant group sprung from this very séance, Chris Knowles points out:
And the other conundrum here is if the Council of Nine’s psychics saw this thing before it was photographed in 1976, did NASA go looking for it solely based on their advice? What does that say about the influence of a group that most people could be excused for dismissing as a bunch of gullible New Agers?
The Nine would go on to surface in weird places for decades including near Uri Geller (the AP is Puharich, who first brought Geller to the US), President Ford, Gene Roddenberry (Deep Space Nine anyone?), Al Gore as well as Soviets surrounding Gorbachev who were instrumental in the collapse of communism as mentioned in this old Fortean Times piece. It’s not unreasonable to assume there were many more such places.
 
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As were John Mack, Rubert Sheldrake, Terrence McKenna, Jeffrey Kripal, Dean Radin and Jacque Valleé. Though my impression is that they are a much better illustration of what Esalen stands for. I don't agree with the view that Esalen is somehow sinister.
It wasn't my point to imply Esalan is somehow nefarious on this thread. (Although I have certainly suggested it in the past.) I think it is interesting that apparently the Council of Nine played an active part for some years at Esalan. It is my understanding that Esalan doesn't really advertise this in any way. They are not comfortable if you bring this up at Esalan. (According to Chris Knowles talking here: http://runesoup.com/2016/01/podcast...n-cargo-cults-tarot-with-christopher-knowles/)
 
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I think it is interesting that apparently the Council of Nine played an active part for some years at Esalan. It is my understanding that Esalan doesn't really advertise this in any way. They are not comfortable if you bring this up at Esalan.
Agreed. The connection between Esalen and Council of Nine (c9) is very interesting. From what I know of c9 (which is not that much) I'm somewhat suspicious of it, though it is also deeply mysterious and fascinating. But I think the involvement with Esalen threatened to derail Esalen from its true purpose (from my perspective) and so I would interpret
Esalen's unwillingness to talk about it as stemming from a sense of embarrassment.
 
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Wow. I particularly liked this little gem:

I just...don't even know what to say to that.

What is this Council of the Nine? I've never heard of it.
This reminds of Don Gracia trying to justify the obviously evil caste system in his interview with Alex. Going past the fact I don't know why these non-Indian guys into Indian mysticism can't just call a spade a spade, I also wonder about the revelations people receive from these supposedly higher realms.

Don Garcia also noted that the universe functioned under a deterministic order, not from the collision of atoms but from the higher revelations he received through yogic mysticism....yet it seems just as plausible to me that revelations under a brutal caste system would receive "revelations" rationalizing their mistreatment of lower castes with the claim everything was predetermined.

Anyway not to diverge too far from the Council of Nine, just saying that it seems odd people can agree with ideas like Morphic Resonance and Psychic Fields and Ancestor Constellations but not wonder how much of what we hear about what's beyond the Veil isn't colored by the flaws of our own ancestors.
 
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This reminds of Don Gracia trying to justify the obviously evil caste system in his interview with Alex. Going past the fact I don't know why these non-Indian guys into Indian mysticism can't just call a spade a spade, I also wonder about the revelations people receive from these supposedly higher realms.

Don Garcia also noted that the universe functioned under a deterministic order, not from the collision of atoms but from the higher revelations he received through yogic mysticism....yet it seems just as plausible to me that revelations under a brutal caste system would receive "revelations" rationalizing their mistreatment of lower castes with the claim everything was predetermined.

Anyway not to diverge too far from the Council of Nine, just saying that it seems odd people can agree with ideas like Morphic Resonance and Psychic Fields and Ancestor Constellations but not wonder how much of what we hear about what's beyond the Veil isn't colored by the flaws of our own ancestors.
Well, to hear White and Knowles talk about it, the ether is chock full of all manner of "non-physical" entities, wise, kind, evil, indifferent, helpful, ignorant, etc.

I think the true heart of the Council of Nine myth is that it intersects with so many rich areas like culture, technology and spirituality at a time when they took a kind of right turn toward the contemporary.

I can't really say much about the truth of the existence or influence of the Council of Nine. But I do currently lean toward agreeing with White and Knowles about the non-physical. Next week, maybe not so much.
 
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If I am remembering correctly, the book Stargate Conspiracy contains an excellent & informative section on "the 9" (I hope I'm not mixing it up with something else, pretty sure I'm not!).

I have now mentioned this book on this forum half a dozen times. The more I think about it, the more I realise how essential reading it is for those with an interest in these subjects.

And I thought it was absolutely essential as soon as I read it! ;)
 
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If I am remembering correctly, the book Stargate Conspiracy contains an excellent & informative section on "the 9" (I hope I'm not mixing it up with something else, pretty sure I'm not!).

I have now mentioned this book on this forum half a dozen times. The more I think about it, the more I realise how essential reading it is for those with an interest in these subjects.

And I thought it was absolutely essential as soon as I read it! ;)
I've finally got it on the wishlist. I may already have it in the jillions of pdfs I've collected lord knows where.
 
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I've finally got it on the wishlist. I may already have it in the jillions of pdfs I've collected lord knows where.
Ah, I too have the jillions. What mysteries may lurk therein?

I would doubt if Stargate Conspiracy is in there, though? I managed to buy a hardback 2nd hand copy off Amazon for what I think turned out to be less than the postage!! Don't ask me how that works :eek:

Just dug out my copy, and it does indeed contain a LOT of material on the "9". Entirely random excerpts from what must be a dozen or two of pages on the subject:

"Enter the Nine

The Council of Nine are not some recent channelling fad. The story began almost 50 years ago thanks to......Dr Andrija Puharich, Uri Geller's mentor....."

"The Nine, it transpired, did not really need Geller, despite having told him that he was to be "the only one for the next fifty years to come"."

"Puharich and Lab Nine had many wealthy and influential backers, including members of Canada's richest family..."

"It was at this time that Puharich also carried out a series of experiments with the so-called "Geller Kids" or "Space Kids", children with pronounced psychic gifts"

"With Horne replacing Geller as the new "Chosen One", a circle formed around him, with a nucleus consisting of Puharich, Schlemmer and Sir John Whitmore...."

"The number of people associated with Lab Nine at Ossining grew, but the identities of many of it's members were concealed in the literature by pseudonyms. It is known they included SRI physicists.....One famous name.....was Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek."
 
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