The Inertia of Scientific Thought

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New Ideas in Science

THOMAS GOLD
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853


Abstract-The pace of scientific work continues to accelerate, but the
question is whether the pace of discovery will continue to accelerate. If we
were driving in the wrong direction-in the direction where no new ideas
can be accepted-then even if scientific work goes on, the progress would
be stifled. This is not to suggest that we are in quite such a disastrous
position, but on the other hand, not all is well.



New ideas in science are not always right just because they are new. Nor are
the old ideas always wrong just because they are old. A critical attitude is
clearly required of every scientist. But what is required is to be equally
critical to the old ideas as to the new. Whenever the established ideas are
accepted uncritically, but conflicting new evidence is brushed aside and not
reported because it does not fit, then that particular science is in deep
trouble-and it has happened quite often in the historical past. If we look
over the history of science, there are very long periods when the uncritical
acceptance of the established ideas was a real hindrance to the pursuit of the
new. Our period is not going to be all that different in that respect, I regret
to say.

I want to discuss this danger and the various tendencies that seem to me to
create it, or augment it. I can draw on personal experiences in my 40 years of
work on various branches of science and also on many of the great contro-
versies that have occurred in that same period.

I will start very naively by a definition of what a scientist is. He is a person
who will judge a matter purely by its scientific merits. His judgment will be
unaffected by the evaluation that he makes of the judgment that others
would make. He will be unaffected by the historical evaluation of the sub-
ject. His judgment will depend only on the evidence as it stands at the
present time. The way in which this came about is irrelevant for the scien-
tific judgment; it is what we now know today that should determine his
~ judgment. His judgment is unaffected by the perception of how it will be
received by his peers and unaffected by how it will influence his standing, his
financial position, his promotion-any of these personal matters. If the
evidence appears to him to allow several different interpretations at that
time, he will carry each one of those in his mind, and as new evidence comes
along, he will submit each new item of evidence to each of the possible
interpretations, until a definitive decision can be made. That is my naive
definition of a scientist.

I may have reduced the number of those whom you think of as scientists
very considerably by that definition. In fact, I may have reduced it to a null
class. But, of course, we have to be realistic and realize that people have
certain motivations. The motivation of curiosity is an important one, and I
hope it is a very important one in most scientists' minds. But I doubt that
there are many scientists to whom the motivation of curiosity about nature
would suffice to go through a lifetime of hard struggle to uncover new truths,
if they had no other motivation that would drive them along that same path.
If there was no question about appealing to one's peers to be acknowledged,
to have a reasonably comfortable existence, and so on, if none of this came
into the picture, I doubt that many people would choose a life of science.

When the other motivations come into the act, of course the judgment
becomes cloudy, becomes different from the ideal one, from the scientific
viewpoint, and that is where the main problem lies. What are the motiva-
tions? If there are motivations that vary from individual to individual, it
would not matter all that much because it would not drive the scientific
community as much to some common, and possibly bad, judgment. But if
there are motivations that many share, then of course that is another matter;
then it may drive the whole scientific community in the field in the wrong
direction. So, we must think: What are the communal judgment-clouding
motivations? What is the effect of the sociological setting? Is our present-day
organization of scientific work favorable or unfavorable in this respect? Are
things getting worse, or are they getting better? That is the kind of thing we
would like to know.


..... -> http://scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_03_2_gold.pdf
 
New Ideas in Science
THOMAS GOLD
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853


Abstract-The pace of scientific work continues to accelerate, but the
question is whether the pace of discovery will continue to accelerate. If we
were driving in the wrong direction-in the direction where no new ideas
can be accepted-then even if scientific work goes on, the progress would
be stifled. This is not to suggest that we are in quite such a disastrous
position, but on the other hand, not all is well.



New ideas in science are not always right just because they are new. Nor are
the old ideas always wrong just because they are old. A critical attitude is
clearly required of every scientist. But what is required is to be equally
critical to the old ideas as to the new. Whenever the established ideas are
accepted uncritically, but conflicting new evidence is brushed aside and not
reported because it does not fit, then that particular science is in deep
trouble-and it has happened quite often in the historical past. If we look
over the history of science, there are very long periods when the uncritical
acceptance of the established ideas was a real hindrance to the pursuit of the
new. Our period is not going to be all that different in that respect, I regret
to say.

I want to discuss this danger and the various tendencies that seem to me to
create it, or augment it. I can draw on personal experiences in my 40 years of
work on various branches of science and also on many of the great contro-
versies that have occurred in that same period.

I will start very naively by a definition of what a scientist is. He is a person
who will judge a matter purely by its scientific merits. His judgment will be
unaffected by the evaluation that he makes of the judgment that others
would make. He will be unaffected by the historical evaluation of the sub-
ject. His judgment will depend only on the evidence as it stands at the
present time. The way in which this came about is irrelevant for the scien-
tific judgment; it is what we now know today that should determine his
~ judgment. His judgment is unaffected by the perception of how it will be
received by his peers and unaffected by how it will influence his standing, his
financial position, his promotion-any of these personal matters. If the
evidence appears to him to allow several different interpretations at that
time, he will carry each one of those in his mind, and as new evidence comes
along, he will submit each new item of evidence to each of the possible
interpretations, until a definitive decision can be made. That is my naive
definition of a scientist.

I may have reduced the number of those whom you think of as scientists
very considerably by that definition. In fact, I may have reduced it to a null
class. But, of course, we have to be realistic and realize that people have
certain motivations. The motivation of curiosity is an important one, and I
hope it is a very important one in most scientists' minds. But I doubt that
there are many scientists to whom the motivation of curiosity about nature
would suffice to go through a lifetime of hard struggle to uncover new truths,
if they had no other motivation that would drive them along that same path.
If there was no question about appealing to one's peers to be acknowledged,
to have a reasonably comfortable existence, and so on, if none of this came
into the picture, I doubt that many people would choose a life of science.

When the other motivations come into the act, of course the judgment
becomes cloudy, becomes different from the ideal one, from the scientific
viewpoint, and that is where the main problem lies. What are the motiva-
tions? If there are motivations that vary from individual to individual, it
would not matter all that much because it would not drive the scientific
community as much to some common, and possibly bad, judgment. But if
there are motivations that many share, then of course that is another matter;
then it may drive the whole scientific community in the field in the wrong
direction. So, we must think: What are the communal judgment-clouding
motivations? What is the effect of the sociological setting? Is our present-day
organization of scientific work favorable or unfavorable in this respect? Are
things getting worse, or are they getting better? That is the kind of thing we
would like to know.


..... -> http://scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_03_2_gold.pdf
Yep
 
An excellent paper, all the more so because it's now 25 years old and the situation is markedly worse. You see, the herd instinct applies to the peer-review system itself, and that's reached the ultimate in lock-in of the sheep. There are faint signs of its future demise, especially with the advent of the Internet and an increasing tendency to publish online, complete with access to relevant data and without the big journals being able to gatekeep. What we need is some really big consensus issue to crumble in a very public way. I know which one I hope that will be, but YMMV.
 
What we need is some really big consensus issue to crumble in a very public way.
Perhaps what would be most effective is for individuals "like us" to continue to cultivate our open-mindedness. Many of us to some degree or the other still venerate science-as-is. And let's be clear - in some areas science-as-is performs admirably. The issue as I see it is that many view it as the be-all,end-all. In cultivating our open-mindedness we expand our own horizons. It's a tricky thing though as part of it is realizing that much of what "makes sense" does so not because it is necessarily correct. but because it fits within prior constructions.
 
Tis not absolutely so. Here are two examples why it's not all that true.
String field theory could be the foundation of quantum mechanics
Two USC researchers have proposed a link between string field theory and quantum mechanics that could open the door to using string field theory—or a broader version of it, called M-theory—as the basis of all physics.
"This could solve the mystery of where quantum mechanics comes from," said Itzhak Bars, USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences professor and lead author of the paper.

Bars collaborated with Dmitry Rychkov, his Ph.D. student at USC. The paper was published online on Oct. 27 by the journal Physics Letters.

Rather than use quantum mechanics to validate string field theory, the researchers worked backwards and used string field theory to try to validate quantum mechanics.



Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-field-theory-foundation-quantum-mechanics.html#jCp
Dark matter may be massive: Theorists suggest the Standard Model may account for the stuff
The physics community has spent three decades searching for and finding no evidence that dark matter is made of tiny exotic particles. Case Western Reserve University theoretical physicists suggest researchers consider looking for candidates more in the ordinary realm and, well, more massive.
Dark matter is unseen matter, that, combined with normal matter, could create the gravity that, among other things, prevents spinning galaxies from flying apart. Physicists calculate that dark matter comprises 27 percent of the universe; normal matter 5 percent.

Instead of WIMPS, weakly interacting massive particles, or axions, which are weakly interacting low-mass particles, dark matter may be made of macroscopic objects, anywhere from a few ounces to the size of a good asteroid, and probably as dense as a neutron star, or the nucleus of an atom, the researchers suggest.



Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-dark-massive-theorists-standard-account.html#jCp
 
Tis not absolutely so. Here are two examples why it's not all that true.
What is not " not all that true"? and what is " not all that true"?

BTW citing two or even a dozen (I can come up with more) new postulations not only doesn't prove anything about the topic at hand, it is close to irrelevant.
 
What is not " not all that true"? and what is " not all that true"?

BTW citing two or even a dozen (I can come up with more) new postulations not only doesn't prove anything about the topic at hand, it is close to irrelevant.
If we
were driving in the wrong direction-in the direction where no new ideas
can be accepted
Is there a veiled implication by you by way of this opinion piece that status quo scientists don't look at or take psi research seriously, but should? What is the topic at hand?
 
Is there a veiled implication by you by way of this opinion piece that status quo scientists don't look at or take psi research seriously, but should? What is the topic at hand?
:eek: There's noting veiled or implied. The article is clear. IMO if you can't/don't understand it without explanation there's no point in discourse with you about this topic. I will only point out that plucking one sentence from a cohesive paragraph is not the way to understanding.
 
:eek: There's noting veiled or implied. The article is clear. IMO if you can't/don't understand it without explanation there's no point in discourse with you about this topic. I will only point out that plucking one sentence from a cohesive paragraph is not the way to understanding.
Ah, I see. When writing the second reply I was unaware of your reply.

So you are suggesting that ideas that have not born fruit such as morphic fields and super string theory are to be given serious consideration specifically? Or is this a general statement of consideration that ideas no matter how odd they might appear at first should have consideration?
 
Ah, I see. When writing the second reply I was unaware of your reply.

So you are suggesting that ideas that have not born fruit such as morphic fields and super string theory are to be given serious consideration specifically? Or is this a general statement of consideration that ideas no matter how odd they might appear at first should have consideration?
The man, Gold, discribes what a scientist should probably look like and we all know most probably look nothing at all like that.
 
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