Charlie Primero
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But I think I'm is sincere, rather than a 'fraud'.
Do you believe it is fraudulent for a person who does not believe in Spirituality to sell it?
But I think I'm is sincere, rather than a 'fraud'.
Do you believe it is fraudulent for a person who does not believe in Spirituality to sell it?
You should listen to Freke's most recent one-on-one Skeptiko interview wherein he admits to being an Atheist Materialist.But do I think Tim does not believe in spirituality? No.
...Christianity's evolution into a theological construct which closed out 90% of human spirituality. ...It was, finally, a failed strategy.
There is nothing wrong with authors like Dr. Joseph Farrell, Tim Freke, or George Harrison selling as many books as they can. Nobody forces people to buy those books. It is up to each individual to decide if the book is good or bad.Do I think that people who put a personal spin on spirituality should sell their version of it?
I agree, but that was not the POV of enthusiastic supporters of the faith who absolutely asserted that there was only one valid faith. I am interested in your POV on then goal of Christianity.I do not share your belief that the goal of Christianity is or should be mass appeal.
There is nothing wrong with authors like Dr. Joseph Farrell, Tim Freke, or George Harrison selling as many books as they can. Nobody forces people to buy those books. It is up to each individual to decide if the book is good or bad.
I am a poor and unreliable apologist for Christianity because I am very new to it, and very uneducated about it compared to many other good posters here.I am interested in your POV on then goal of Christianity.
By all means he can offer his ideas for free in a community capable of evaluating them - but selling them to people who cannot?
Freke has a moral obligation to be honest about what he is selling. The fact that he dances wildly to avoid confessing that he is an Atheist indicates he is fully aware his customers would be displeased by that intelligence. Deception = Awareness of wrong-doing = greater Moral Culpability
I think Caveat Emptor applies more strongly here than you believe. Freke's customers are grown-ups. It is their duty to detect by employing Logic and Reason that an Atheist selling Spirituality is fraudulent.
That caveat being said :), my initial impression upon recently beginning a non-adversarial study of Christianity is that seeking mass appeal is a doctrinal error.
Well said!if you are not working for insight and understanding you will get nothing of value.
Well said!
I read The Jesus Mysteries many years ago and already know all the Christ-Myth stuff from Acharya S. and Bart Erhman, et al.
My research method is to begin investigating at the extremes, and work my way to the middle. I adopted this method when evaluating governmental policies as part of my Master's work in Public Policy at University.
The benefit of this method is that it leaves nothing out. Perhaps the Bolsheviks were right? Perhaps the Monarchists are right? You can't know unless you A/B test them all.
Regarding Spirituality, I already have a good handle on the extreme Atheist / Mythicist side of things. I am just now beginning to sort through the extreme other pole.
After correcting the math error, Lewis found that the paper’s rate of oceanic warming “is about average compared with the other estimates they showed, and below the average for 1993–2016.”
More nonsense to ‘normalize’ the weather tampering, aka geoengineering, climate remediation, weather modification. They need to justify the weather whiplash and weather disasters somehow, the unwashed are getting restless and bothered. We have regular bouts of yo-yo weather that cause our Great Dane to pace and pant uncontrollably, shake, try to hide her head in my lap, jumps into the bathtub for some relief, as the weather goes from 80 degrees F with high winds to 30s and back again, then snow in TX, then floods, then insane dry lightening, then hurricanes and tornadoes simultaneously as the paid liars pretend it’s climate change on the one hand or the ‘Grand solar minimum’ on the other, all horseshit. It’s WEATHER WARS!Are we ready for Polar Vectors?
https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/th...ortex-winters-due-to-climate-change-1.6270028