Trump Consciousness

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You are not getting the other half she said. She said the machines (voting) can be programmed to give %'s. If so if she is telling the truth it would give votes to Biden he didn't actually rec..
Yeah, and that other half is potentially potent. Regardless of the outcome, it has thrown an existing long lived issue into the light. So that is a win!
I just find it amazing that some think affidavits are just pieces of paper when what it means is that hundreds of people are willing to spend some serious jail time if caught lying. It is evidence, but then evidence and proof have a different context.

As for your previous post, Yeah I know right? I often have a pessimistic view of things I admit. I have also said that there may not be enough to overturn the result. I'd like to be wrong about that. But what the people who are polarized by this whole thing do not see is the huge potential for actual change that we have not seen in many decades. So they may have to put up with Trump for a while. That is going to happen anyway it can't be undone, he won't be going away and nor will his followers. However it stands a real chance to pave the way for a legitimate leader not a puppet of the military industrial complex or of corporates interests. This is why I think there has always only been a choice between a douche and a turd, because the system was always set up that way.

Also the already defunct media will be destroyed, they will still try to push the propaganda but any vestiges of legitimacy will be swept away.

I am a dreamer. :)

If they are correct about this being a big nothing burger than it is just back to business as usual. Whoopdy doo we won! Well no you didn't actually. We are all losers once again.
 
Well this is pure gold. This is a conspiracy theory Bart. Just as the Russia gate thing was. You even have admitted you still believe it despite being ruled out through the legal challenges.



Kind of contradictory, since you previously gave the correct answer here.

Oh yes and your reality is the true reality right? Please get off your high horse. Reality is perspective. The reality of a family in Palestine being bombed by US paid IDF bombs is different to Israelis being attacked from Hamas rockets. You just gave an example above of how you see this from your reality, so that is your reality which appears as fantasy to be honest. How incredibly arrogant and ignorant of you.



Yet you just fabricated your own conspiracy theory based on your intuition not facts.



Haha, so you return another strawman, no one said anything about q-anon! Another bit of gold right there. It's clear you believe what you want to because of ideology not evidence. That is my perspective, and probably to anyone else not in your "reality".

I meant Corruption in the voting system. Remember informal fallacy is provisional to facts. There is corruption we just do not know how far it goes yet. So yeah it is a fact and not a fallacy.

Yeah keep trying mate, maybe I can give you some more rope to tangle yourself in.
You have a lot of confidence but you're not really correct in your assessments. "Russia Gate" was not a conspiracy theory...there was evidence...they just couldn't directly connect it to Trump. Read the actual case. There also has not been any evidence of fraud presented yet. Please leave the echo chamber.
 
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The Russian investigation was a complete hoax. It was $$ backed by the Clinton machine & the DNC. That is a fact. The Steele report was a lie. Anyone who now believes it is either a liar themselves or stupid. I'm sorry it just is. If you are one of those people who can be lead so easily to still believe this, let me know so I can block you.

It isn't I wouldn't listen to you but to continue with a known lie... just waste my time. We have enough problems without people telling lies when the facts are plain. Here now is our problem, our agencies have been compromised. Our FBI and DOJ. They are bought & paid for.

I also fear our media has been compromised as well. This would mean China now owns us. Ask the people who are in re-education camps in China how they like that. Because they would do the same thing to you.
Oh wow. You and LS need to leave the underground chamber you've been living in.
 
Well this is pure gold. This is a conspiracy theory Bart. Just as the Russia gate thing was. You even have admitted you still believe it despite being ruled out through the legal challenges.



Kind of contradictory, since you previously gave the correct answer here.

Oh yes and your reality is the true reality right? Please get off your high horse. Reality is perspective. The reality of a family in Palestine being bombed by US paid IDF bombs is different to Israelis being attacked from Hamas rockets. You just gave an example above of how you see this from your reality, so that is your reality which appears as fantasy to be honest. How incredibly arrogant and ignorant of you.



Yet you just fabricated your own conspiracy theory based on your intuition not facts.



Haha, so you return another strawman, no one said anything about q-anon! Another bit of gold right there. It's clear you believe what you want to because of ideology not evidence. That is my perspective, and probably to anyone else not in your "reality".

I meant Corruption in the voting system. Remember informal fallacy is provisional to facts. There is corruption we just do not know how far it goes yet. So yeah it is a fact and not a fallacy.

Yeah keep trying mate, maybe I can give you some more rope to tangle yourself in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/615373/
 
You have a lot of confidence but you're not really correct in your assessments. "Russia Gate" was not a conspiracy theory...there was evidence...they just couldn't directly connect it to Trump. Read the actual case. There also has not been any evidence of fraud presented yet. Please leave the echo chamber.
If you want to play legal eagle here you should learn the difference between evidence and proof and what the word collusion means ie conspiracy. The fifth report found no evidence connecting Trump just as you admit. What you present is really just an opinion piece of hearsay and conjecture. valid or not it is still just that. Lets say there was Russian "collusion" based on statements like "filling the gaps" "doesn’t definitively" "unable to procure a full record of events" "Likely a participant in the Kremlin scheme" and on and on.... The language is very telling. Well this is a conspiracy theory even if it was true or it isn't. There is certainly no "proof" Which is why it failed.

The case does highlight vulnerabilities to election fraud that are most likely valid, except when the shoe is on the other foot then they are invalid. That is the hypocrisy here. The double standard is pretty clear.

Perhaps this case will go down the same path who knows. But don't claim you know the truth, we are all outsiders looking in.
 
If you want to play legal eagle here you should learn the difference between evidence and proof and what the word collusion means ie conspiracy. The fifth report found no evidence connecting Trump just as you admit. What you present is really just an opinion piece of hearsay and conjecture. valid or not it is still just that. Lets say there was Russian "collusion" based on statements like "filling the gaps" "doesn’t definitively" "unable to procure a full record of events" "Likely a participant in the Kremlin scheme" and on and on.... The language is very telling. Well this is a conspiracy theory even if it was true or it isn't. There is certainly no "proof" Which is why it failed.

The case does highlight vulnerabilities to election fraud that are most likely valid, except when the shoe is on the other foot then they are invalid. That is the hypocrisy here. The double standard is pretty clear.

Perhaps this case will go down the same path who knows. But don't claim you know the truth, we are all outsiders looking in.
Where there's smoke, there's fire. When all your buddies are in jail, you're probably involved. He's always been able to get away from prosecution but he won't be able this time. He can't hide behind the presidency anymore.
 
I just find it amazing that some think affidavits are just pieces of paper when what it means is that hundreds of people are willing to spend some serious jail time if caught lying. It is evidence, but then evidence and proof have a different context.
LS, no one is challenging the concept of affidavits. What some of us are saying is the alleged affidavits haven't been presented in a court of law and been vetted. You're drawing conclusions before then?
 
LS, no one is challenging the concept of affidavits. What some of us are saying is the alleged affidavits haven't been presented in a court of law and been vetted. You're drawing conclusions before then?
No, I was responding to the claim "what affidavits?"
Alleged affidavits seems to say that they may not be affidavits. Which I think strains credulity. That is a pretty big claim.
Whether they have merit or not is another question. Which is why I distinguish between evidence and proof.
 
Oh wow. You and LS need to leave the underground chamber you've been living in.
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CHRIST, why do I always have to be the person to educate idiots? Fine lunatic what part of the setup did you NOT freaking get!? The entire $hit storm was because of a FREAKING DOSSIER! Are you awake? God. This dossier was paid by the FBI and Fusion GPS.

Who funded Fusion GPS? The Clinton campaign & the Democratic Party. Oh and let's NOT mention it was all a God DAMN lie. Did you read it? I did. If it had been true Trump wouldn't have gotten any support. It is because the rest of us saw what was going on & how they were fucking with your head with all this fake stuff.

The FISA lies. They lied to the FISA court. For someone who doesn't like the police, I'd think even you would be miffed they lied to you. HERE read this or shut up: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-...-payments-trump-dossier-author-steele-n897506
 
"Chanel Rion on “Dominion-izing the Vote”"


"Chanel Rion on “Dominion-izing the Vote”"

Instead of adding security and reducing opportunities for human error, Dominion machines just make it easier to commit vote fraud.

Dominion is a system to automate vote fraud.
 
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