malf
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ection-whats-true-and-whats-false/6266732002/
Some more helpful fact-checking.
Some more helpful fact-checking.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ection-whats-true-and-whats-false/6266732002/
Some more helpful fact-checking.
Progress!!
Fair enough. All I have to go on is what you post which so far has not shown any balance to my read combined with a lot of absolute statements without evidence. But this while thread (ie not singling you out) has been that way from the start: propaganda oriented.Not really. I have been fully aware of this the whole time. I have already admitted my bias openly in response to one of your earlier attacks and am fully aware that I may be wrong with any number of those. I have highlighted the point that none of us can make definitive statements, and that media propaganda is clouding the issues. And most importantly that investigation is crucial regardless of the outcome. Already the investigation has provided fruit that would otherwise have slipped under the radar and issues that have been pushed into the light. So in a way this is already a win as far as I am concerned. It's been far more fruitful in mere weeks than in years of Russia gate nonsense. But still the nothing to see here mantra continues which is absurd.
You just have a limited perspective to what I think, which is normal as that can only be gleaned from what I post but have blocked things like the above in your filter. If you were not so arrogant, condescending and rude you could simply ask my opinion instead of going on the war path. You would find that your characterizations and accusations are misplaced even though your filter and own bias and pride would not allow it . You would also disagree with much, as I would with your points of view which would be fine. Instead you just behave like you do because of the way you are. Which I accept.
So be it. That is all I have to say to you. Perhaps we can talk more down the track as your country continues to implode, maybe you'll sing a different tune but I truly doubt it.
Apparently wanting a fair election makes canvassers open to threats.
I'm glad the bullies didn't win this one. People were making death threats against the two Republicans. That kind of behavior is a threat to democracy.
What a shame the opportunity to have a real president such as this man was never really given to the people.
In an extraordinary turnabout that foreshadows possible legal action, the two GOP members of Wayne County's election board signed affidavits Wednesday night alleging they were bullied and misled into approving election results in Michigan's largest metropolis and do not believe the votes should be certified until serious irregularities in Detroit votes are resolved.The statements by Wayne County Board of Canvassers Chairwoman Monica Palmer and fellow GOP member William C. Hartmann rescinding their votes from a day earlier threw into question anew whether Michigan's presidential vote currently favoring Democrat Joe Biden will be certified. They also signaled a possible legal confrontation ahead."I voted not to certify, and I still believe this vote should not be certified," Hartmann said in his affidavits. "Until these questions are addressed, I remain opposed to certification of the Wayne County results."Added Palmer in her affidavit: "I rescind my prior vote to certify Wayne County elections."Both GOP board members said their concerns included discrepancies in nearly three quarters of Detroit's precinct poll books where ballots are supposed to be matched to qualified voters."The Wayne County election had serious process flaws which deserve investigation. I continue to ask for information to assure Wayne County voters that these elections were conducted fairly and accurately. Despite repeated requests I have not received the requisite information and believe an additional 10 days of canvas by the State Board of canvassers will help provide the information necessary," Palmer explained.Their pronouncements come just 24 hours after a chaotic meeting in which the county's election board initially failed to certify the Nov. 3 election results during a 2-2 deadlocked vote when both Palmer and Hartmann voted against certification. But after hours of contentious public comment and criticism -- including Democratic allegations of racism and threats against their safety -- the two GOP members struck a deal to certify the elections in return for a promise of a thorough audit.Palmer and Hartmann said Wednesday they learned that state officials had reneged or would not honor the audit, leaving them no recourse but to oppose certification until more investigation could be performed.It was not immediately unclear whether the Tuesday night compromise was binding or could be changed, or whether the two members' decision to announce their rescinded votes would stop Michigan state officials from proceeding to name electors.But both GOP board members said in the affidavits they felt misled and unduly pressured to change their positions the night earlier."The comments made accusations of racism and threatened me and members of my family," Palmer said in her affidavit.