At some point, I suspect we can't measure it in that conventional kind of way. I think energy will end up doing something weird, kinda like speed does at (c) the speed of light. Energy would have been around "before" spacetime, so I'm not sure what that would mean for the nature of it.
The Theosophists and
highest level astral travelers report that energy - and all form - seizes to exist in any state that we might recognize.
Living within the confines of present 21st century language, and Einstein, it is relevant to associate energy, matter and light (electromagnetism) ie. frequency (vibration) and how these properties create matter, physically and lower-mid astrally. Measuring it in joules would be the resultant of E=mc{squared}
The astrotheologist will be quick to point out the relationship between bent light or light entering through our atmosphere and the etymology of the word "angle" to "angel", the photon, the pineal gland, etc.
Here is Bill Donahue's...
http://www.prometheanreach.com/billdonahue
...response when I claimed he was "reaching" on the angel-angle-light etymology in the New Testament - capitalization and punctuation as it appeared in the email...
"YOU CORRECTLY SAID I WAS REACHING
I SAY CORRECT BECAUSE I AM INTERPRETING GREEK MYTHOLOGY
AND IF YOU DO NOT REACH YOU CANNOT FIND.
IF YOU DO NOT REACH YOU WILL TAKE THE STORIES LITERALLY
FIRST: I WANT TO PRESENT FOR YOU THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION
AND ORIGIN OF THE WORD ANGLE
an·gle
2 [ang-guhl]
Show IPA verb,an·gled, an·gling, noun
verb (used without object)
1.
to fish with hook and line.
2.
to attempt to get something by sly or artful means; fish: toangle for a compliment.
noun
3.
Archaic. a fishhook or fishing tackle.
Origin:
before 900; Middle English v. angelen, noun angel, angul, OldEnglish angel, angul; cognate with Frisian,
Dutch angel, Old Saxon,Old High German angul (> German Angel ), Old Norse ǫngull; Greekankýlos bent,
Sanskrit ankuśá- hook; akin to Old English anga, OldHigh German ango, Latin uncus, Greek ónkos hook;
relation, if any,to Latin angulus
angle1 not clear
YOU SEE BEFORE 900 THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE WORD ANGLE TO ANGELEN MIDDLE ENGLISH
AND ANGEL OLD ENGLISH. AND YOU SEE OTHER CONNECTIONS.
I WANT YOU TO NOTICE THE CONNECTION OF ANGLE TO THE LATIN ANGULUS
NOW LET US LOOK AT THE ETYMOLOGY FOR ANGEL
angel (n.)
14c. fusion of Old English engel (with hard -g-) and Old French angele, both from Latin angelus, from Greek angelos"messenger, envoy, one that announces," possibly related to angaros "mounted courier," both from an unknown Oriental word (Watkins compares Sanskrit ajira- "swift;" Klein suggests Semitic sources). Used in Scriptural translations for Hebrew mal'akh (yehowah) "messenger (of Jehovah)," from base l-'-k "to send." An Old English word for it was aerendgast, literally "errand-spirit."
NOW WE SEE A CONNECTION TO THE LATIN ANGELUS
LET US CONSIDER, WHAT IS AN ANGEL?
an·gel
ˈānjəl/
noun
- 1.
a spiritual being believed to act as an attendant, agent, or messenger of God, conventionally represented in human form with wings and a long robe.
"God sent an angel to talk to Gideon"
AN ANGEL IS AN ATTENDANT OR MESSENGER OF GOD.
THE HEBREW WORD IS MALAKH WHICH MEANS MESSENGER
IF WE LOOK IN THE BIBLE WE SEE THAT GOD IS NOT A MAN
GOD IS LIGHT
IF GOD IS LIGHT AND AN ANGEL IS A MESSENGER OF GOD IT WOULD
BE REASONABLE TO CONSIDER THAT AN ANGEL IS LIGHT
WE HAVE FURTHER CONFIRMATION FOR THIS ASSUMPTION WITH
THE SCRIPTURE 2Cor 11:14 ANGEL OF LIGHT
IF AN ANGEL IS A LIGHT MESSENGER OF GOD
AND IF IN SCIENCE A MESSENGER PARTICLE IS A PHOTON
THEN THE ANGEL OF LIGHT WOULD BE AN ANGLE OF LIGHT WHICH IS A PHOTON
PHOTONS ARE LIGHT WAVES THAT ENTER THE EARTH ON AN ANGLE
OF COURSE THIS DOES NOT PROVE ANYTHING BUT PROVING THINGS IS NOT WHAT I DO
WHAT I DO FEEL IT DOES DO IS BRING A BIT A COMMON SENSE INTO THE
BIBLICAL STORY.
WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO CONSIDER THAT AN ANGEL IS A MAN
WHO HAS WINGS AND WEARS A WHITE ROBE AND FLYS DOWN TO MEET WITH PEOPLE
OR
WOULD IT BE MORE REASONABLE TO CONSIDER THAT AN ANGEL IS AN ANGLE OF
LIGHT PHOTON WHICH IS ABSORBED INTO THE HUMAN BODY THROUGH EXCITEMENT
OF ELECTRONS IN THE PINEAL GLAND.
SO IF WE ARE TO CONSIDER WHAT AN ANGEL WOULD BE WHEN READING THE
BIBLE WE MIGHT REASONABLY CONCLUDE THAT IT WOULD BE A FORM OF LIGHT.
AS A FORM OF LIGHT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PHOTON WHICH IS AN ANGLE
OF LIGHT MESSENGER PARTICLE, OR ANGEL OF LIGHT MESSENGER OF GOD
SINCE I HAVE NO DOCTRINES I DO NOT PUT THIS OUT TO BE BELIEVED BUT SIMPLY
TO BE CONSIDERED AND I FEEL IT IS A REASONABLE CONSIDERATION
THANK YOU FOR WRITING
BILL
http://www.hiddenmeanings.com