Andy Paquette, Election Truth |612|

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Andy Paquette, Election Truth |612|​

by Alex Tsakiris | Feb 27 | Skepticism

Dr. Andy Paquette confronts AI about election truth.​

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Andy’s Blog Post on the AI session: How to make AI your friend

Here is a summary of the conversation between Alex Tsakiris and Andy Paquette, with supporting quotes from the document:​

1. They discuss using AI chatbots to help reveal truths about election fraud by methodically deconstructing arguments.
2. Paquette outlines an example of potential election fraud he discovered involving 25 identical voter registration records with the same rare name and birthdate. Tsakiris says “Would further confirmation, uh, come if it was found that the signatures on several of the cards were identical, would this be further con confirming evidence of, and you go back to the term, uh, what did you call it? Uh. Registration fraud or election or, uh, fictitious registrations, fictitious.”
3. Paquette mentions he has discovered voter registration rates exceeding 100% of the eligible population in some counties when including purged voters. Tsakiris says that’s “another one. But you see what I’m saying? We’re gonna Yeah, we’re gonna reconstruct that from the ground up.”
4. They talk about the goal of getting the AI to agree basic facts about what constitutes election fraud and violations. Tsakiris says “These are obvious points to you and me, but we want AI the smartest thing in the room to say yes.”
5. Tsakiris emphasizes the goal is to use the AI to validate Paquette’s findings in a way that is credible to outside observers. He says “That’s gonna be powerful. Actually, one thing that ai? And with this project of kind of using the deceptive and manipulative parts of these large language models and turning them on their head to show that there might be an emergent virtue aspect to this amazing ai they’re not trying to be virtuous, they just are.”

 

[Open Mind]

In a just world what Andy Paquette has discovered should be on the front page of the New York Times. We should all thank Andy for having the guts to persist on this important matter, I wish him well with his new book. (Bought his book 'Dreamer' over a decade ago).

Worthy discussion, with helpful advice from Alex.

 

[Andrew Paquette]

Wait until you see the next one. That interview was the warm-up. Based on what we did there, I have now written three more articles about chatbot interactions on election subjects. To say the least, they are very interesting. The short version is this: the chatbots can react like a normal unbiased person if asked in the right way. A neutral perspective these days is very rare.

 

[grrjk]

To quote you from the episode Andrew, 'this is exciting'...
No wonder 'they' urgently want an AI oversight body formed and legislation in place asap. Under the guise of safety and protection (where have we heard that before lol) .

Anyway, great episode and really compliments the last bunch of SK. AI episodes as it underlines their importance of what Alex gets them to do, and potential for where this can go. don't think I really appreciated fully this series til now.

I wish we could know more about the backend, eg if the AI bots retain or flag/report these kinds of conversations to their programmers to see how to address similar inquires in future... Gives these dialogues a sense of urgency, knowing how fast AI is developing and considering the chance they could be restricted even more to proper barriers rather than just roadbumps...

Andrew/Alex, presumably engineers are working to tighten things up, right... do you see a way of circumventing that from the outside?
Have you already had instances where the bots dont recognize their previous statements as their own? So if they admit to being deceitful in episode ~610 then engineers come in, in the mean time and tight up their dataset and roadbumps behind the scenes, then by episode ~620 the same bots dont even acknowledge what they said in the past is their statement/conclusion and infact they are not being deceitful and basically doing a 180, and calling fraud... I guess its unavoidable really but hoping you have a trick up your sleeves before it's too late lol

Lastly, any plans to do this on other topics. I know C'vid is planned, but plenty of 'headline conspiracy' topics could be fruitful (cough building 7 cough).
Or better yet, Kennedy assassinations - considering your independent candidate with coming elections. Could fit well with Andrew's work!

 

[Robbedigital]

I'm still convinced that this A.I. is not the best and brightest that's out there.
Assuming that the foremost leading world powers/governments/militaries (US/Russia/China) actually view each other as enemies ever jockeying in competition for the top position and that's not just a show they put on for the public, I cannot imagine a world military leader plugging in to their very best A.I. a request such as "Jarvis, display photos of a happy white family" and being told "I'm sorry Colonel, I'm unable to complete your request due to social connotations, blah blah blah." That would be a defective weapon.
This is an elephant in the room that is not being discussed. And I have a feeling that behind this elephant is hiding the very same plausible deniability that the world governments/militaries will claim once the public begin bringing "Public A.I." in front of a supreme court to implicate some real people for some recent real atrocities.

Aside from that, I was absolutely fascinated with the expertise being navigated/generated between Alex and Andy working together in this episode. And very much looking forward to seeing more asap.

 

[Nelson]

This interesting video goes into the layering of politically correct biases that end up manifested in the AI:

1: government bias

2: financial institutions such as Blackrock

3: conditioned workers at the tech firms

4: the AI being programmed

 

[Nelson]

 

[Nelson]

"Jarvis, display photos of a happy white family" and being told "I'm sorry Colonel, I'm unable to complete your request due to social connotations, blah blah blah." That would be a defective weapon.

Excellent point Robbe! An AI for the public such as Gemini is so flawed that it surely has blindspots in areas the programmers wouldn't even anticipate, so it'd be a very deficient tool for the ruling class themselves.
So there's most likely a secret AI for the ruling class that isn't so biased, that gives accurate answers...

 

[Nelson]

PS: that's assuming the ruling class is composed of rational actors though, who aren't influenced by the conditioning they're foisting on others. Sometimes I think they're actually getting high on their own supply though. So maybe they actually do have a biased, inaccurate AI working for them too......

 

[Robbedigital]

Excellent point Robbe! An AI for the public such as Gemini is so flawed that it surely has blindspots in areas the programmers wouldn't even anticipate, so it'd be a very deficient tool for the ruling class themselves.
So there's most likely a secret AI for the ruling class that isn't so biased, that gives accurate answers...

You have a great mind to process this dilemma.

Assuming these two are true:
1. At least some faction of world government or world military power is currently in communication with "Aliens"("aliens" as in whoever holds the pink slips for the UFO's.. Or, as in about whom we're indefinitely clamoring for Disclosure).
2. We've all heard over and over the phrase "Whatever tech we have, the military is always 10-20 years ahead of us.." If this were true, then certainly the A.I. we're currently playing with would have been in the military's hands 10-20 years ago...
We can't have our cake and eat it too.
If there's advanced computing tech out there, it would necessarily include A.I. It doesn't make sense to say that the military has advanced physics tools, advanced psy tools, advanced space equipment.... "but not A.I. though."

So in my opinion, if there's no further advanced A.I. out there, then the military is definitely not in contact or sharing tech with any advanced species.
This is not my area of research, and I know I'm making doing some mental gymnastics, but nonetheless this dilemma is not being talked about in any of the A.I. discussions I'm hearing.

 

[Nelson]

You have a great mind to process this dilemma.

Assuming these two are true:
1. At least some faction of world government or world military power is currently in communication with "Aliens"("aliens" as in whoever holds the pink slips for the UFO's.. Or, as in about whom we're indefinitely clamoring for Disclosure).
2. We've all heard over and over the phrase "Whatever tech we have, the military is always 10-20 years ahead of us.." If this were true, then certainly the A.I. we're currently playing with would have been in the military's hands 10-20 years ago...
We can't have our cake and eat it too.
If there's advanced computing tech out there, it would necessarily include A.I. It doesn't make sense to say that the military has advanced physics tools, advanced psy tools, advanced space equipment.... "but not A.I. though."

So in my opinion, if there's no further advanced A.I. out there, then the military is definitely not in contact or sharing tech with any advanced species.
This is not my area of research, and I know I'm making doing some mental gymnastics, but nonetheless this dilemma is not being talked about in any of the A.I. discussions I'm hearing.

I'm glad you zoomed out to that level Robbe. When we acknowledge ET involvement, it dwarfs what's merely happening on this planet.

I think the dilemma you mentioned comes back to what I call the 'central dilemma of ufology' -- that is, if ufo beings are so much more powerful than us, why haven't they taken over already?

I'll give my specific answer to your two points below:

 

[Nelson]

1. At least some faction of world government or world military power is currently in communication with "Aliens"("aliens" as in whoever holds the pink slips for the UFO's.. Or, as in about whom we're indefinitely clamoring for Disclosure).

That seems almost certain, at least ET in communication with human individuals high up in various hierarchies (as Marty Garza's research indicates). But given that, it doesn't necessarily mean that the ufo beings are giving away ALL their technology. The recent history of non-human entities giving technology to humans shows that it's the entities sharing technology bit by bit.

Likewise, mythology shows the same pattern (and as you probably know, the ancients themselves considered mythology to be history). A case in point is Prometheus giving humans a dozen or so technologies such as fire and 'made them acquainted with architecture, astronomy, mathematics, the art of writing, the treatment of domestic animals, navigation, medicine, the art of prophecy, working in metal, and all the other arts'. https://www.theoi.com/Titan/TitanPrometheus.html

But Prometheus didn't go on to give humans the internal combustion engine, rocketry and computers... Why not?

Zeus intervened in further technology transfers by isolating and punishing Prometheus.

So mythology and recent history actually contain a coherent reason why humans haven't advanced so quickly technologically over the millennia, and it also explains why there seem to be no humans now who possess technology so far beyond what's available in the mainstream.

 

[Nelson]

2. We've all heard over and over the phrase "Whatever tech we have, the military is always 10-20 years ahead of us.." If this were true, then certainly the A.I. we're currently playing with would have been in the military's hands 10-20 years ago...
We can't have our cake and eat it too.
If there's advanced computing tech out there, it would necessarily include A.I. It doesn't make sense to say that the military has advanced physics tools, advanced psy tools, advanced space equipment.... "but not A.I. though."

So in my opinion, if there's no further advanced A.I. out there, then the military is definitely not in contact or sharing tech with any advanced species.
This is not my area of research, and I know I'm making doing some mental gymnastics, but nonetheless this dilemma is not being talked about in any of the A.I. discussions I'm hearing.

The previous point I made dovetails into this. I don't see much evidence of governments or any other human organisation with technology so far beyond what was/is available in the mainstream. Sure, the computers are more powerful that governments have, and in some fields such as rocketry they have technology that the average person will never get their hands on (but that's mainly due to the expense). And in terms of AI, its development seems to be almost exponential. So the AIs that are disclosed but not yet available to the public are mind-blowing compared to AIs the public has access to now. And what we have now with say ChatGPT and Midjourney is mind-blowing compared to what was available just a year ago. So even a year headstart is massive for AI.

 

[Nelson]

PS: just as an aside: many people in alternative research circles say there was 'ancient high technology'. I find almost all of this research to be baseless.

A case in point are the pyramids in Egypt. Standard academia has explained them convincingly enough imo. This presentation by an alternative researcher who's brilliant and relatively very objective shows this well:

But meanwhile so-called researchers such as UncharteredX (who unfortunately Marty Garza and The Brothers of the Serpent agree with) say there must have been ancient precision power tools; otherwise stones couldn't have been cut the way they were. UncharteredX then censors people on his YouTube channel who disagree. But there's plenty of DEMONSTRABLE evidence that stonework to an ancient standard using very simple technologies is possible but it's just time and energy intensive.

 

[Nelson]

PPS: that's a huge topic above, which I've debated for months on, but to summarise:

1) yes, ET was giving (and is probably still giving) human individuals technology, but limited in scope & piecemeal;

2) yes, governments have more technology than us, but not that much more

 

[Robbedigital]

PPS: that's a huge topic above, which I've debated for months on, but to summarise:

1) yes, ET was giving (and is probably still giving) human individuals technology, but limited in scope & piecemeal;

2) yes, governments have more technology than us, but not that much more

To carry on with the assumption that someone in Gov/Military is in contact with "Aliens".. And I'm just going by feeling here. And perfectly insightful that you brought up the pyramids.
My favorite meme this year which i saw recently, says "4000 years ago" and shows a picture of the pyramids of Giza, then below it it says "Today" and is shows the Sphere in Las Vegas displaying a huge yellow smiley face.
I don't think people understand the depth of meaning behind the The Great Pyramid having been built. It's mere existence is a statement, and one which our world is still apparently not advanced enough to understand.

So, the aliens - so advanced to us - if interplanetary, must understand the great pyramid. Therefore, the aliens have judged that teaching/nudging us computer technology comes first before learning about Great Pyramid technology. This doesn't make sense to me. I'm not certain why, but I think the word "statement" applies again. The pyramid says to me "You're not fully advanced yet."
Whatever the function of the pyramid, the fact that need-to-know basis the aliens has us on it intentionally obfuscating..

 

[Nelson]

My favorite meme this year which i saw recently, says "4000 years ago" and shows a picture of the pyramids of Giza, then below it it says "Today" and is shows the Sphere in Las Vegas displaying a huge yellow smiley face.
I don't think people understand the depth of meaning behind the The Great Pyramid having been built. It's mere existence is a statement, and one which our world is still apparently not advanced enough to understand.

So, the aliens - so advanced to us - if interplanetary, must understand the great pyramid. Therefore, the aliens have judged that teaching/nudging us computer technology comes first before learning about Great Pyramid technology. This doesn't make sense to me. I'm not certain why, but I think the word "statement" applies again. The pyramid says to me "You're not fully advanced yet."
Whatever the function of the pyramid, the fact that need-to-know basis the aliens has us on it intentionally obfuscating..

Two big assumptions here though Robbe:

1) the pyramids of Giza are beyond modern engineering to reproduce;

2) the purpose of the pyramids is mysterious.

The video I linked to above addresses much of this, showing that there was an evolution in pyramid building and that despite its impressiveness, even the great pyramid clearly has design flaws (e.g. being too steep initially and then a new, thick outer layer was created). And there's plentiful evidence the pyramids were designed as tombs, the idea being to surround the Pharaoh's corpse with so much stone, in order to prevent grave robbers. This was especially important, because the ancient Egyptians believed in physical resurrection after death. So the corpse/mummy had to stay intact.

 

[Nelson]

And there's the rise of the priest class following the construction of the great pyramid, which explains why not as much attention was paid to the pharaohs after this. I.e. there was no longer a civilisational focus on a god-king who had to have his body protected at all costs. Instead the construction of temples took up more focus.

 

[Nelson]

And there's plenty of videos online showing how traditional stone masons cut,smoothen, and transport massive blocks of stone. It's ingenious but low tech. There's even a video online of a vast monolith being moved many kilometres in Italy in the 1930s using essentially iron-age technology, by using logs, ropes, and many men and animals to pull it.

That feat is impressive, but imagine what's possible when one has tens of thousands of people working full-time, as the pharaohs had access to for their building projects...

 

[Nelson]

But unfortunately in many alternative research circles all this is ignored or weakly explained away. Most of the 'Ancient Aliens' and 'Ancient High Technology' proponents don't even mention the ancient Egyptian cultural / religious / historical context. Instead they insist that a mysterious technology must have been used, such as power tools with diamond saws to cut the rocks, rather than looking at what traditional stone masons are capable of with primitive but ingenious technology.