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[Alex]

Unity consciousness IMO is not a concept that applies in cases of the surreal evil

thx. you're raising a really good point... I mean, what do we do with spirit intervention/possession/manipulation? we can hold on to the idea that there is a core essence to our consciousness/spirituality... and it always remains connected, but it's tricky whichever way we turn.

 

[Nelson]

So, big picture, we're in this sea of consciousness... this sea of spirituality. in this sea we experience the constant yammering of the voice inside our head. this yammering can lead us to the best and the worst of human expression, but it is always in/of the sea of spirituality... because that's all there is. so our interaction with consciousness... with our consciousness... with unity consciousness... is our " rich spiritual life." it can't be otherwise :)

Aha! I just got the kindle version of Crossover Experience by DJ Kadagian. As soon as I heard Gregory Shushan helped write the book I was sold. Love the historical perspective
So I'll read it and get back to you on the sea of consciousness :)

 

[Silence]

Unity consciousness IMO is not a concept that applies in cases of the surreal evil being perpetrated, as covered in this interview:
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/rein...r-a-must-watch-interview_b7eb5LS8iPiaNAH.html
Skip to minute 43ff.
This video is much better quality than the one I sent Alex.

There is a huge need to explore the implications of consciousness in cases of genetic alteration of these types and magnitude.

See also

Wait. Are you suggesting the video is evidence of some sort of generically altered super soldiers?

 

[Bhakti]

Wait. Are you suggesting the video is evidence of some sort of generically altered super soldiers?




Somehow my Gypsy moniker was changed back to Bhakti. No worries

Pls listen to the Callender interview, minute 43ff. https://brandnewtube.com/watch/rein...r-a-must-watch-interview_b7eb5LS8iPiaNAH.html
Super soldiers is the mildest atrocity. My point is we need to explore the implications for consciousness, and spirituality, of the frankensteins covered--AND DOCUMENTED--in that interview (https://corona-investigative-committee.com/)

 

[Alex]

Aha! I just got the kindle version of Crossover Experience by DJ Kadagian. As soon as I heard Gregory Shushan helped write the book I was sold. Love the historical perspective
So I'll read it and get back to you on the sea of consciousness :)

just recorded an interview with Dr. Shushan... super important work IMO

 

[Nelson]

just recorded an interview with Dr. Shushan... super important work IMO

Sounds great! :)
Like you've often talked about, the level 3 conversation of trying to map out the extended conscious realm is a very worthy endeavour.
Fantastic that Shushan with his wealth of historical and intercultural knowledge can bring so much to the table

 

[Alex]

Sounds great! :)
Like you've often talked about, the level 3 conversation of trying to map out the extended conscious realm is a very worthy endeavour.
Fantastic that Shushan with his wealth of historical and intercultural knowledge can bring so much to the table

Agreed. but as you'll hear it's a classic rabbit hole situation... the deeper you go...

 

[Bhakti]

RUMI ON GOOD VERSUS EVIL

The reign of the predator will come to an end.
The King granted it a few days to ravage the Earth,
while hidden lions await His command,
"Come."

When the command is given and spreads abroad,
Spirit shall rise anew as justice prevails:
The archives of good and evil
will be examined
so that Truth may be known.

Evil,
which has always fed solely
on bones and dung,
will be overthrown on sea and land.
Pure-hearted gazelles will roam the land,
and waterbirds sail the sea.

Lovers of God will claim the celestial spheres;
And drink love from the Cupbearer
all the rest of their lives.

I derived this poem from an acclaimed prose translation of the work of thirteenth century saint Jalauddin Rumi: The Mathnawi of Jalauddin Rumi, edited and translated by Reynold A. Nicholson, LITT.D., LL.D., F.B.A..The first three stanzas are based on Book VI: 1875-1880; the last from Book V: 3238. Unlike some other poetic translations, including some by Coleman Barks, mine does not change Rumi’s meaning as expressed in Nicolson’s translation.

 

[ReptilianGypsy]

Thoroughly enjoyed this episode and looking forward to more in the future.
Nothing hit me as controversial related to NDEs.
That said..
Regardless of the Flat Earth Psy-op acting as a thorn in Alex’s side, I think we all know there’s something to the Psy-op where the magnitude of it doesn’t match the hype. And I think listening to this episode helps me visualize the crux and I think I can paint the picture.

“Flat Earth” Psy-op Analogy Time..

John Doe is married to his wife 10 years and for 1 year has had secret sex encounters with men at his local gym.
As the encounters become more time consuming and involved, John realizes his excuses are gradually coming up short with loose ends. However John has no intention on decreasing his escapades.
So John decides to create a trail of semi-harmless flirting emails with a woman at work saying things like “stop being cute”, and “really enjoyed our mini get-away”. Then John conveniently starts leaving trails of these emails where his wife can find them. And when she does, he digs in fully: “Baby, it’s nothing, we’re not even flirting!” Etc…. And John continues to generate this fake trail in order that the wife never has energy or attention to care about what’s happening at the gym.

In this analogy:
-John Doe represents NASA and pop science.
-Johns wife represents conspiracy theorists.
-The gym-escapades represent all the fake material NASA and pop science puts out.
-The office flirting gimmick represents Flat Earth dis-info/narrative.

Let me know if this has any holes in it.

Haha man, fuck, you honestly crack me up! This is written so well! It sounds like a Seinfeld episode. Regardless, I don't think that the flat earth stuff is a psyop. If you look into architecture, geometrically it doesn't work on a ball with the dimensions that we are given. You don't even have to go into all of that. I agree with the fact that math is not a direct representation of reality, or a truth "unto" itself, but only a language. It is highly possible that we could be living on a round chunk of shit that feels level from our tiny, inconsequential, accidental existence.

 

[ReptilianGypsy]

Man the Podcast has been on fire lately!! Great stuff.I listened to Nelson 4 times and I’m on my second listen of this new one already, and not embarrassed whatsoever.
I love that Andy and Alex can riff on this stuff in much agreement with almost a radio show vibe.
Anyhow, I forgot to mention above, The episode briefly focused on the “Box Saga?” But there was no summary and I’m not seeing it when I google. Anyone wanna fill me in? I’ll take your calls when we return from the break, but for now here’s Chuck Mangione with his lesser known hit track Give it All You Got. Don’t touch that dial, we’ll be right back…

Agree with you about the "Box Saga" thing. That kind of shit irritates me. I know that Andy is sincere in his exploration of it, and dude, his podcast is fucking great; - but this box saga shit reminds of Qanon, Lizard people, Bob Lazar, that moron from Blink 182, or Ryan Bledsoe's bullshit. Not a knock at Andy at all, because I think that guy is sincerely pursuing truth at a level few can comprehend.

 

[ReptilianGypsy]

RUMI ON GOOD VERSUS EVIL

The reign of the predator will come to an end.
The King granted it a few days to ravage the Earth,
while hidden lions await His command,
"Come."

When the command is given and spreads abroad,
Spirit shall rise anew as justice prevails:
The archives of good and evil
will be examined
so that Truth may be known.

Evil,
which has always fed solely
on bones and dung,
will be overthrown on sea and land.
Pure-hearted gazelles will roam the land,
and waterbirds sail the sea.

Lovers of God will claim the celestial spheres;
And drink love from the Cupbearer
all the rest of their lives.

I derived this poem from an acclaimed prose translation of the work of thirteenth century saint Jalauddin Rumi: The Mathnawi of Jalauddin Rumi, edited and translated by Reynold A. Nicholson, LITT.D., LL.D., F.B.A..The first three stanzas are based on Book VI: 1875-1880; the last from Book V: 3238. Unlike some other poetic translations, including some by Coleman Barks, mine does not change Rumi’s meaning as expressed in Nicolson’s translation.

Good for Rumi. I remember reading his writings, from a sex crazed, Belgium refuge, 30 year old woman that treated me like a man 23 years ago. I was 21 at the time, and was able to see the World Trade Centers before they were knocked down; - while visiting New York. Shit, did I say Rumi? I met Khalil Gibran!

 

[ReptilianGypsy]

Unity consciousness IMO is not a concept that applies in cases of the surreal evil being perpetrated, as covered in this interview:
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/rein...r-a-must-watch-interview_b7eb5LS8iPiaNAH.html
Skip to minute 43ff.
This video is much better quality than the one I sent Alex.

There is a huge need to explore the implications of consciousness in cases of genetic alteration of these types and magnitude.

See also

This is good for Pride Month. It highlights the polarizing level of homosexuality in the military.

 

[Robbedigital]

Haha man, fuck, you honestly crack me up! This is written so well! It sounds like a Seinfeld episode. Regardless, I don't think that the flat earth stuff is a psyop. If you look into architecture, geometrically it doesn't work on a ball with the dimensions that we are given. You don't even have to go into all of that. I agree with the fact that math is not a direct representation of reality, or a truth "unto" itself, but only a language. It is highly possible that we could be living on a round chunk of shit that feels level from our tiny, inconsequential, accidental existence.

"The Apollo Program cost roughly $25.4 billion, unadjusted, in 1973. In 2020 dollars, that's about $194 billion adjusted for inflation. "

So if we figure a 70" flat screen color tv in 1970 would have run you about $200,000.00, and now only cost $500.00 (or 1-400th). Maybe we could estimate that our cost to remake minimum equipment sufficient to land foot on the moon should run us about $485,000,000.00 (500mil), or roughly 11 or 12 days worth of NASA's budget.

Obviously exaggerating beyond belief to prove a point. But the point isn't exaggerated.

 

[Robbedigital]

"The Apollo Program cost roughly $25.4 billion, unadjusted, in 1973. In 2020 dollars, that's about $194 billion adjusted for inflation. "

So if we figure a 70" flat screen color tv in 1970 would have run you about $200,000.00, and now only cost $500.00 (or 1-400th). Maybe we could estimate that our cost to remake minimum equipment sufficient to land foot on the moon should run us about $485,000,000.00 (500mil), or roughly 11 or 12 days worth of NASA's budget.

Obviously exaggerating beyond belief to prove a point. But the point isn't exaggerated.

Perhaps my cost estimates are not so exaggerated. https://oldcomputers.net/ibm5100.html

 

[ReptilianGypsy]

"The Apollo Program cost roughly $25.4 billion, unadjusted, in 1973. In 2020 dollars, that's about $194 billion adjusted for inflation. "

So if we figure a 70" flat screen color tv in 1970 would have run you about $200,000.00, and now only cost $500.00 (or 1-400th). Maybe we could estimate that our cost to remake minimum equipment sufficient to land foot on the moon should run us about $485,000,000.00 (500mil), or roughly 11 or 12 days worth of NASA's budget.

Obviously exaggerating beyond belief to prove a point. But the point isn't exaggerated.

Exactly, my brother. That is why I think it is funny when people take Nasa seriously, or when they shit on "flat earth" theories. If you go out and actually observe some shit, this thing looks pretty fucking flat. Yes, it has mountains and so fourth, but there isn't any observable curve. Again, I am not against the "ball earth" theory, but if you try to measure it, as engineers and builders do in practical reality, it fails miserably.

 

[Nelson]

Exactly, my brother. That is why I think it is funny when people take Nasa seriously, or when they shit on "flat earth" theories. If you go out and actually observe some shit, this thing looks pretty fucking flat. Yes, it has mountains and so fourth, but there isn't any observable curve. Again, I am not against the "ball earth" theory, but if you try to measure it, as engineers and builders do in practical reality, it fails miserably.

One doesn't need to complicate things any more than to fly AROUND the world. The Flat Earth theory is demonstrable nonsense and a psyop!

 

[Robbedigital]

Exactly, my brother. That is why I think it is funny when people take Nasa seriously, or when they shit on "flat earth" theories. If you go out and actually observe some shit, this thing looks pretty fucking flat. Yes, it has mountains and so fourth, but there isn't any observable curve. Again, I am not against the "ball earth" theory, but if you try to measure it, as engineers and builders do in practical reality, it fails miserably.

I'm coming at this more from that standpoint that they're obviously hiding a major fraction of the story, and they've pigeon holed any skeptics. The fact that in 2022 there aren't college kids launching up into space to have promiscuous sex will staring at Earth from space... Or regular military (not secret) deployments to the moon base which should have been built and visible from earth telescope no later than 10 years after first setting foot on the moon.. These things make the NASA narrative seem a Truman Show gag.
Going to Mars before we have a base and tourism on the Moon? If I take that seriously there's no way I'm gonna question the bigger stuff.

 

[ReptilianGypsy]

One doesn't need to complicate things any more than to fly AROUND the world. The Flat Earth theory is demonstrable nonsense and a psyop!

Did you see yourself actually fly "around a ball shape" from the outside? Are you an astronaut? If I give a shitty map of my town, and you can't find the place that you wanted to find, are you going to bend the map to match the land or figure it out for yourself? Nelson, my brother, I thought this "flat earth" shit was dumb as fuck when I looked at it because of what I was constantly taught. Nevertheless, there is still a TONE of dumb shit about flat earth, but the narratives we sink are teeth into are equally, if not stupider than flat earth.

Think of this, folks.....we are planning a mission to Mars, or at least Elon is, but we can't get "back" to the fucking Moon again? Does this prove a flat earth? No, it doesn't, but it certainly proves that we are being bullshitted. What is most shocking to me is that we don't try to figure out everything about where we live, right now, before looking at a few flickering lights through a telescope and determining that our existence here is inconsequential. It doesn't matter what any of these assholes tell any of you, these are just flickering lights in a telescope, not Bona fide truth of any sort. We have oceans that we know very little about, ancient histories left unvetted, and forests that contain God knows what in them. Nevertheless, you have arrogant, rat faced technocrats telling us that there is nothing left to discover here?

 

[Nelson]

Did you see yourself actually fly "around a ball shape" from the outside? Are you an astronaut? If I give a shitty map of my town, and you can't find the place that you wanted to find, are you going to bend the map to match the land or figure it out for yourself? Nelson, my brother, I thought this "flat earth" shit was dumb as fuck when I looked at it because of what I was constantly taught. Nevertheless, there is still a TONE of dumb shit about flat earth, but the narratives we sink are teeth into are equally, if not stupider than flat earth.

If I can fly from New Zealand to LA, to London, to Japan and back to New Zealand, how do you explain that then?...

 

[Nelson]

Think of this, folks.....we are planning a mission to Mars, or at least Elon is, but we can't get "back" to the fucking Moon again? Does this prove a flat earth? No, it doesn't, but it certainly proves that we are being bullshitted. What is most shocking to me is that we don't try to figure out everything about where we live, right now, before looking at a few flickering lights through a telescope and determining that our existence here is inconsequential. It doesn't matter what any of these assholes tell any of you, these are just flickering lights in a telescope, not Bona fide truth of any sort. We have oceans that we know very little about, ancient histories left unvetted, and forests that contain God knows what in them. Nevertheless, you have arrogant, rat faced technocrats telling us that there is nothing left to discover here?

What you seem to be doing with the Flat Earth theory is conflating it with genuine anomalies... So many valid points you raised in that second paragraph you wrote. But we have to differentiate between the different questions: e.g.

Flat Earth: nonsense and a psyop

Mainstream narrative of the space program: a lot of suspicious anomalies

Rat-faced oligarchs: they look like it, and they behave like psychopaths