David Whitehead, Cult of the Medic |531|

My favorite part of the interview was ‘the middle’s always evil’ segment. The middle of the road, it should be safer, right? And maybe sometimes it is, but I agree, not now. What happens if folks actually start to hold accountable themselves and those all around them committing the banal middle of the road evil that props up this entire system?

And, about those seizures. Just like about those schizophrenics and autistics and on and on. To what degree do we continue to accept the consequences of adaptation? Adapting to evil, because that is exactly what we have been doing to be a comfortable citizen, bit by bit. Just a few generations ago it was rare to wear glasses, now it’s considered quite normal. Sometimes we pretend we’ve just become better at diagnoses, which is a complete lie, evident as soon as one studies pre-industrial cultures. It’s considered ‘insensitive’ to question the roots of such diseases. ’Sensitivity’ in itself is considered a handicap now, oh she’s EMF sensitive, gluten sensitive, light sensitive, etc. Those who are impervious and actually desensitized are celebrated instead, harking in the roboticized human that is long in the making, long before ‘technocracy’ was dished out to the public, industrial man is the natural father of cybernetic man.

So, what are we conforming to? How is the ’benign middle’ contributing to the fall? I’d say they are making the fall inevitable.
 
I'm still kind of stunned that there's this kind of groupthink on both sides going on.
Either everyone who questions is anti-science or
anyone who thinks that there's validity to the main science is effectively a muggle not willing to open their eyes to the truth.
The idea that you can't live in the middle and have honest judgement about the issues.
I'm glad they clarified as I stand on my principles. I don't think that every opinion is equal.
But I do think every opinion needs to be heard.
But, no one says some of the real questions. Like, this idea that people should automatically say no to a vaccine because they don't believe
in the science of vaccines.
Well, there was this thing called polio...
And a widespread vaccine campaign that hit the whole world wiped out smallpox.
We're always quick to point out when the government and powerful forces do the wrong thing.
Why can't we ever credit when they do the RIGHT thing? Why is it just picking out the examples of when they are evil?
This doesn't mean you ignore the evil when it happens. But it does throw a spanner in this idea that they are ALWAYS evil.

And why doesn't anyone come down with the most reasonable response of all.
And that is, extreme wealth and power cause these issues. And that has been fast tracked by unregulated capitalism.
Weird how no one recognizes that.
J
 
I'm still kind of stunned that there's this kind of groupthink on both sides going on.
Either everyone who questions is anti-science or
anyone who thinks that there's validity to the main science is effectively a muggle not willing to open their eyes to the truth.
The idea that you can't live in the middle and have honest judgement about the issues.
I'm glad they clarified as I stand on my principles. I don't think that every opinion is equal.
But I do think every opinion needs to be heard.
But, no one says some of the real questions. Like, this idea that people should automatically say no to a vaccine because they don't believe
in the science of vaccines.
Well, there was this thing called polio...
And a widespread vaccine campaign that hit the whole world wiped out smallpox.
We're always quick to point out when the government and powerful forces do the wrong thing.
Why can't we ever credit when they do the RIGHT thing? Why is it just picking out the examples of when they are evil?
This doesn't mean you ignore the evil when it happens. But it does throw a spanner in this idea that they are ALWAYS evil.

And why doesn't anyone come down with the most reasonable response of all.
And that is, extreme wealth and power cause these issues. And that has been fast tracked by unregulated capitalism.
Weird how no one recognizes that.
J

Most of these vaccine success stories are actually: the vaccine was introduced at the tail end of the natural decline in the disease as well as at a time general health and nutrition was improving. That said there might be some benefit to some vaccines in some cases.

In some cases regulations are helpful and in some cases the large corporations write them and prefer them as they just create barriers to entry for the smaller competition. I do think corporations need limits and should have to prove their existence is in the public's best interests.
 
Most of these vaccine success stories are actually: the vaccine was introduced at the tail end of the natural decline in the disease as well as at a time general health and nutrition was improving. That said there might be some benefit to some vaccines in some cases.

In some cases regulations are helpful and in some cases the large corporations write them and prefer them as they just create barriers to entry for the smaller competition. I do think corporations need limits and should have to prove their existence is in the public's best interests.

I agree for the most point, but how do you think that polio was over? And small pox may not have been around first world nations but were decimating places like India and all we would need is stronger variants of those to come and hit us all.
 
I agree for the most point, but how do you think that polio was over? And small pox may not have been around first world nations but were decimating places like India and all we would need is stronger variants of those to come and hit us all.

We do not know what dis-eases are caused or reported, it’s that simple. What was once called ‘influenza’ is renamed, as was polio, fibromyalgia, cancer, whatever, these are all symptoms presenting that get rediagnosed depending on the quackery of the prevailing experts.
 
We do not know what dis-eases are caused or reported, it’s that simple. What was once called ‘influenza’ is renamed, as was polio, fibromyalgia, cancer, whatever, these are all symptoms presenting that get rediagnosed depending on the quackery of the prevailing experts.
#citationneeded
 
The poisonous relationship of corporate capitalism taking over governments is at it again.
The real question is why we never talk about these relationships?
The pill is only 30% effective.
 
I feel like Steven Snyder would call David Whitehead a conspiracy theorist.

That said,
Regarding solutions. I believe they're simple.
An upgrade to Capitalism something along the lines of:
Incentivize the wealthy to improve life for the poorest peoples of the world via investments in small private businesses to grow
-Quality of life (Clean water, plumbing, local farming)
-Security
-Sovereignty
-Education

I believe Health and a Green World will come as a result of the above. Whereas the NWO is trying to force the exact opposite approach, because they don't believe the poor can be trusted with empowerment.
 
I feel like Steven Snyder would call David Whitehead a conspiracy theorist.

That said,
Regarding solutions. I believe they're simple.
An upgrade to Capitalism something along the lines of:
Incentivize the wealthy to improve life for the poorest peoples of the world via investments in small private businesses to grow
-Quality of life (Clean water, plumbing, local farming)
-Security
-Sovereignty
-Education

I believe Health and a Green World will come as a result of the above. Whereas the NWO is trying to force the exact opposite approach, because they don't believe the poor can be trusted with empowerment.

Didn't they try that?
It was called Feudalism, and while it did last for centuries, it didn't really create innovation.
J
 
Any chance the other forums will be re-opened?

I've noticed two things worth mentioning:

1. NDERF has a poster which references the name Mich'l. If you type in that exact phrase search won't find it. You can find the results by truncating the last two characters in the name. I am pretty sure some here will agree posts with that name sound fictitious since the name appears over and over in the database.

2. Its disappointing no one seems to care about the timing issue. Having browsed the NDERF website its obvious the beings encountered are not super intelligent even if they are described as being god-like, jesus, etc. A prospective study should be able to design questions to ask the light that verify the authenticity of the experience to a greater degree than the experiences just saying so. But what questions could be asked? And compared to what? The only valid comparison group that I am aware of is the claim that the experience is really a dream or dream like, even if its very intense and life changing. So then perhaps the NDE group should be compared to lucid dreamers asking their 'guides' the same question. But instead of asking unverifiable questions, why not ask verifiable ones?

The NDERF database does not contain answers to questions. Just claims, often wrong about the future, or religion, or both.
 
Great discussion. David is a cool guy. Lots of common sense from both David and Alex.

IMO, there is always going to be a tension between the drive toward "community" and government versus individual freedoms and freedom of thought versus evil. Like David said, there has to be a balance.

What I see these days is that people we call "liberals", "socialists", "progressives" desperately want cohesive communities and government to run things. It's like they can't conceive or accept that every time you surrender your power to someone else, evil will see the opportunity and creeps in. But you guys addressed that. Good job. It's a human conundrum.

Beware of falling into cults (= thought and belief systems that are closed off to alternatives). Wearing the mask is a sign of cult membership to some (including me) and a sign of being a virtuous member of a community to others, but doesn't a community like that = cult? How can it not?

Conspiracy theorists are also cult members (The CT cult). Debunkers are cult members.

David is right about where tech is heading. It's not a CT. That has been in the works for years. Spying and control is - and has been - the goal of the US govt with this (like the Chinese). 5G will enable it all by leaps and bounds because of the increased power/bandwidth.

Don't follow leaders and watch the parking meters.
I'm proud to say the jig is up in the Php. The BS is recognized here for what it is b/c filipinos are by & large scammers.
In the meantime, if you're aware of the devastation of the Cebu City area by the recent Signal 4 Typhoon, they can use your help. Lots of ppl are driving to Bogo to buy gasoline & water b/c there isn't any there or the blood suckers are charging 3 times the price. So help if you can, please.
 
Yes, using CIA as catch all...

I was just making the point that cohesive groups are valuable tools in statecraft.

Satanists or anarchists will never be a real threat to the power structure because they by their nature are anti-structure... so they can't organize well enough to mount a defense... and their acting out just helps the state justify its existence so the statecraft play is to support them under the table and also use them for blackmail to control key players. On the other hand groups like Freemasons who are well organized and highly structured could potentially be a network that offers resistance or a network that offers support... so it must be co-opted.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it... Satanists could be considered a cohesive group although very unreliable so co-opting their "organizations" is probably a benefit as well even if it is like herding cats.


SMH...
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nice! best and most concise breakdown I've ever read.

Love the red arrow... says it all :)
 
I'm proud to say the jig is up in the Php. The BS is recognized here for what it is b/c filipinos are by & large scammers.
In the meantime, if you're aware of the devastation of the Cebu City area by the recent Signal 4 Typhoon, they can use your help. Lots of ppl are driving to Bogo to buy gasoline & water b/c there isn't any there or the blood suckers are charging 3 times the price. So help if you can, please.
nice. it takes a thief to catch a thief.
 
Any chance the other forums will be re-opened?

I've noticed two things worth mentioning:

1. NDERF has a poster which references the name Mich'l. If you type in that exact phrase search won't find it. You can find the results by truncating the last two characters in the name. I am pretty sure some here will agree posts with that name sound fictitious since the name appears over and over in the database.

2. Its disappointing no one seems to care about the timing issue. Having browsed the NDERF website its obvious the beings encountered are not super intelligent even if they are described as being god-like, jesus, etc. A prospective study should be able to design questions to ask the light that verify the authenticity of the experience to a greater degree than the experiences just saying so. But what questions could be asked? And compared to what? The only valid comparison group that I am aware of is the claim that the experience is really a dream or dream like, even if its very intense and life changing. So then perhaps the NDE group should be compared to lucid dreamers asking their 'guides' the same question. But instead of asking unverifiable questions, why not ask verifiable ones?

The NDERF database does not contain answers to questions. Just claims, often wrong about the future, or religion, or both.
why don't you start a dialog with dr jeff long.
 
why don't you start a dialog with dr jeff long.
I guess I could try emailing him if I had his account name. Maintaining that database is a labor of love for sure and I can't say this concern rises to the occasion since I know so little about how it was designed.

However, I am pretty sure you should know the answer to this question which I feel is much more important.

1) How did Parnia infer in his 2014 aware study the timing of the veridical perception? I don't mean do we really know what should happen. I could care less about the materialist narrative. I want to know how the timing was inferred. The paper declares it true. I want to know why.

Btw, have you watched any recent farsight trailers on youtube? The latest one has his son on explaining how perplexed and upset their group of remote viewers were to discover evil aliens. It even says they are protecting us from information that seems very analogous to Roko's Basilisk (via the lesswrong cult created by Yudkowsky -- an proponent of transhumanism and funded by Peter Thiel). I've mentioned him before.

My point vis a vis farsight is this: if they simply had enough groups willing to open up and test them, simply getting the same answer to a question is impossible given the blinded protocol used. Yet they seem to claim to nearly always get it right. But remember what I told you about others who have tried remote viewing? Some believe its only possible if you frontload.

So it seems, since I don't think farsight is lying, they are extremely talented. My best guess as to why their information is so challenging is because they are simply getting back what they expect from their leader. But I got off topic didn't I?

All that really matters is the timing issue. I wish you would focus on that. You think its resolved. It's not, at least not compared to what we would want. At least not according to the normal standard. I don't mean the skeptical standard. Just tell me how he inferred it. I already know after 14 seconds you are dead according to materialism.

I want to be able to explain this science to other people and without the details no one will believe me.
 
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I guess I could try emailing him if I had his account name. Maintaining that database is a labor of love for sure and I can't say this concern rises to the occasion since I know so little about how it was designed.

However, I am pretty sure you should know the answer to this question which I feel is much more important.

1) How did Parnia infer in his 2014 aware study the timing of the veridical perception? I don't mean do we really know what should happen. I could care less about the materialist narrative. I want to know how the timing was inferred. The paper declares it true. I want to know why.

Btw, have you watched any recent farsight trailers on youtube? The latest one has his son on explaining how perplexed and upset their group of remote viewers were to discover evil aliens. It even says they are protecting us from information that seems very analogous to Roko's Basilisk (via the lesswrong cult created by Yudkowsky -- an proponent of transhumanism and funded by Peter Thiel). I've mentioned him before.

My point vis a vis farsight is this: if they simply had enough groups willing to open up and test them, simply getting the same answer to a question is impossible given the blinded protocol used. Yet they seem to claim to nearly always get it right. But remember what I told you about others who have tried remote viewing? Some believe its only possible if you frontload.

So it seems, since I don't think farsight is lying, they are extremely talented. My best guess as to why their information is so challenging is because they are simply getting back what they expect from their leader. But I got off topic didn't I?

All that really matters is the timing issue. I wish you would focus on that. You think its resolved. It's not, at least not compared to what we would want. At least not according to the normal standard. I don't mean the skeptical standard. Just tell me how he inferred it. I already know after 14 seconds you are dead according to materialism.

I want to be able to explain this science to other people and without the details no one will believe me.
these might get you there:
Dr. Penny Sartori, Are NDEs All Light and Love? |374| - Skeptiko

There is Nothing Paranormal About Near-Death Experiences ...

What would Oliver Sacks say about the afterlife now? |291
 
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