Dr. Rob Williams and Brandon Zollino, Freedom and Unity |557|

Silence said:
Sorry, I meant less "you" in specific and more "you" as in the reader/all of us.

Just interesting in that there's always someone less fortunate that you could be sharing anything excess to your survival. Yet, most don't do much/anything regardless of station in life.
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Understood. And no "sorry" needed. That's one of the cool things about exchanging with you is you provide a lot of opportunities to step back and look at myself/perspective. I did shoot back kinda defensively. But I intended more to build further on the point. I don't do a lot for poor people, but I bet if I had a $100billion I could afford to figure out a better system than one that leads it's high-energy/potential warriors into revolving door jail systems. Instead they're(Gates's/Musk's) trying to live forever. Meanwhile, they don't realize that same high-energy people they're jailing is probably what's missing from their think tanks.

Have you noticed that in the last 20 years it's become 99/100 movie trailers these days the feature song is a shotty remake of an older pop song? These people are creativity-averse.
 
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Jack Ward said:
The end of Globalization 2
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The analysis makes sense if one assumes that globalisation is an American project (as Peter Zeihan explicitly does). But it is not. The NWO leadership goes at least another level deeper and they are transnational: e.g. the Bilderberg Group, World Economic Forum, etc.
 
Nelson said:
The analysis makes sense if one assumes that globalisation is an American project (as Peter Zeihan explicitly does). But it is not. The NWO leadership goes at least another level deeper and they are transnational: e.g. the Bilderberg Group, World Economic Forum, etc.
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Agreed... funny how we can even turn globalization into an exclusively American endeavor :)

Also, whenever we get to this level I always think about ET. ET shut off the nukes at the American Air Force Base. and turned on nukes at the Soviet Air Force Base. they have announced the fact that there are player.

Also, also, I'm not a really big Joseph Farrell fan, but he's done some pretty amazing research on 9/11. it seems like we have to consider the possibility that 9/11 reveals the Fingerprints of another player at the NWO level.
 
Alex said:
Also, whenever we get to this level I always think about ET. ET shut off the nukes at the American Air Force Base. and turned on nukes at the Soviet Air Force Base. they have announced the fact that there are player.
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What you say has a lot of evidence backing it up of course. And even though I've personally had UFO experiences, I still have to concentrate on logic to reach the conclusion that these ufo beings are manipulating global politics. The thought doesn't come automatically to my mind. I'm trying to figure out this phenomenon, why there's something about it, as if it WANTS us to have it slip through our fingers...

For example, that the UFOs are usually elusive, but sometimes so brazen (as in the ICBM incidents). Also the trickery involved. And considering the UFO beings are so telepathic, and that they also appear interested in manipulating humans' worldviews (such as religions and the gifting of technology)... Well given that, and that many of these channeled entities and gods throughout history could be ufo beings... It strikes me on reflection as odd, that they would give minor prophecies and other information that is shown to be accurate, then once the recipient is hooked, the ufo being (or whatever is sending the human the information) predicts the end of the world at a certain date with instructions on what to do to save themselves. But so far these doomsday prophecies have been incorrect and the believers appear foolish.

Then there's the question of why the ufo beings wouldn't have communicated to various peoples around the world, giving the recipients the same name of the "god" or giving the same prophecy. After all, I'm not aware of any name of a "god" that has appeared in both pre-Columbian Americas and Eurasia. But surely that would have been easy for the ufo beings: to communicate with all the tribes on Earth, giving the exact same name of the god, the exact same prophecy and exact same instructions on what to do. But instead we get a hodgepodge. Even in modern Ufology, there's no such consistent message. No consensus among the humans either. A case in point that Richard Dolan has often pointed out, that researchers such as Dr David Jacobs and Mary Rodwell basically agree on the existence of the reported phenomena but have COMPLETELY opposing interpretations of it
 
Alex said:
Also, also, I'm not a really big Joseph Farrell fan, but he's done some pretty amazing research on 9/11. it seems like we have to consider the possibility that 9/11 reveals the Fingerprints of another player at the NWO level.
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Some years ago I went through Farrell's work. The physics stuff was beyond my capacity to judge. But on the Great Pyramid in Egypt, I'm convinced that the standard model in academia has enough evidence to support that it was a tomb built by the dynastic Egyptians (not built as a weapon for a cosmic war).

Furthermore, Farrell's claims that there's a powerful nazi conspiracy to take over the world doesn't have reliable evidence to back it up and there's plenty of evidence that nazis (and nationalists generally) have been manipulated to fight like sacrificial pawns to further the globalist agenda (a case in point: how extremist nationalists in Ukraine were manipulated into getting slaughtered right now). And Farrell's theory is at odds with Voltaire's maxim: to find out who rules you, ask who you're not allowed to criticise...
So this all indicates the opposite of Farrell's theory

Then there's Farrell's book 'Babylon's Banksters'. For me it was the last straw. It was a lazy rehashing of a book by another author which Farrell quotes extensively. Farrell's own writing is saturated with spelling and grammatical errors. And there's almost no connection established between bankers in ancient Babylon and bankers in ancient Greece. Actually it's infuriating to read if one has studied the Persian Wars and the Peloponnesian War. Historically it made perfect geopolitical sense for the Persian empire to play Athens off against Sparta after Persia's defeat in Greece. There's no need for bankers from Babylon to explain the historical data. Farrell offers almost no evidence.

I just remembered too. In a series of dozens of interviews that Farrell gave with a woman, that Farrell had organised as an in-depth display of his work, the woman sounded lovely and was very impressed by Farrell's work, but at the beginning of one of the podcasts (which was from sometime in the 21st century), she introduced the show without irony by greeting all the listeners in the "Soviet Union".....

So those are some of my impressions of Farrell's work: low level, unreliable and often nonsensical
 
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PS: I'd still be interested to hear a summary of what Farrell says about 911, but I'm very wary now
 
Also, also, I'm not a really big Joseph Farrell fan, but he's done some pretty amazing research on 9/11. it seems like we have to consider the possibility that 9/11 reveals the Fingerprints of another player at the NWO level.[/QUOTE]
Yes, we certainly do need to consider that, Alex. Richard Gage felt the same way and tried as head of the 911 truth effort to get all that event reinvestigated for over a decade. I found it odd that no one in America was concerned enough to step up and give him the money he needed to do that.
 
Robbedigital said:
We like to assume that the Uncanny Valley only has to do with video screens or VR.. Not a lot of discussion on what it's going to look like in communication.
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Yes. What I found freaky about the excerpts in the video was how natural the conversation sounded. As someone in the comment section under the video wrote, imagine if the AI had access to someone's Facebook account and had all that data to create a conversation....
 
garry said:
Yes, we certainly do need to consider that, Alex. Richard Gage felt the same way and tried as head of the 911 truth effort to get all that event reinvestigated for over a decade. I found it odd that no one in America was concerned enough to step up and give him the money he needed to do that.
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I just looked up Farrell's theory on 911, claiming that a 'Fascist International' was behind it. I'm very sceptical of this, for the reasons I wrote above. Furthermore, much of the nazi ufo / nazi Antarctica info appears to be a psyop. Admiral Byrd I don't trust as a source, nor the hypnotist in the Betty and Barney Hill case telling Barney that he saw Nazis in the UFO. That's just the tip of the iceberg

There's also a lot of motivation to get people worried that nazis are about to take over the world... and to create cover for what's really going on

A case in point is the founder of the Bilderberg Group, Prince Bernhard, who is often cited as a former SS officer, thereby indicating that the Bilderberg Group is run by nazis...
But when one looks into Prince Bernhard's background, it turns out he was in the SS for a time but early on, before wwii, changed sides to become a vehement ANTI-nazi, engaging in combat against Germany.
 
Additionally, the ns agenda is obviously not being fulfilled. Present Germany is probably the most ethno-masochistic society in the world. Furthermore, if the nazis had UFOs, why wouldn't they have used them to stop the destruction of Germany? The Germans didn't lose the war by much. Then there are companies such as IG Farben that Farrell often mentions. But IG Farben was dismantled. Plus the American financiers of the NSDAP and 3rd Reich are often mentioned. But how many of these capitalists funded MANY different parties and countries? This is standard practice among such types. Diversifying investments. That way, no matter which side wins, the financiers might still benefit.

There are so many reasons to dismiss Farrell's work, both the ancient stuff and the modern. Even just looking at the scale of spelling and grammatical errors in his books shows what a half-arsed job Farrell does.
 
Alex said:
Agreed... funny how we can even turn globalization into an exclusively American endeavor :)

Also, whenever we get to this level I always think about ET. ET shut off the nukes at the American Air Force Base. and turned on nukes at the Soviet Air Force Base. they have announced the fact that there are player.

Also, also, I'm not a really big Joseph Farrell fan, but he's done some pretty amazing research on 9/11. it seems like we have to consider the possibility that 9/11 reveals the Fingerprints of another player at the NWO level.
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Considering most of the world's wealth is engaged through America either from American billionaires or as the US dollar as the defacto currency doesn't that seem a bit of a slam dunk.
I maintain this makes much more sense than some squishy theory based on a guy with a Powerpoint and an evil European accent.
How is it that we somehow have more belief in the things that have no actual proof like the Bilderberg group, Global Reset, etc... then we do in things that actually have documentation and smoking guns?
Other than some troubling rhetoric from World Economic Forum by some obviously ideological individuals. Do we see any actual legislation that would dismantle countries and bring sovereignty to an end for nations? Because I haven't seen such things.
If you're going to argue that Climate legislation does that, I think that's a pretty weak sauce answer as the Paris Accords are not only not legally binding but the US has never hit their targets.
If Climate Change is this grand way to remake society in the New World Order's image, it's been pretty much a bust since all the shouting of the Greta Thunbergs in the world haven't done square 1 to actually make the changes that are needed.

But there's a really easy way to prove whether Peter Zeihan is full of shit or not. Do the math. It's included in his book. Go see if his population projections fit or not? And why would his conclusions be that out of ALL the nations in the world, the US is still set to turn out the best of all the others if this whole Global Reset is designed to wrest power from the US?
It's important to follow the evidence. Not what we think is down a rabbit hole, but actually what appears before us.
Whether we like the conclusion or not.
J
P.S. I apologize for the lengthy absence. I was in the hospital for a spell.
 
Jack Ward said:
How is it that we somehow have more belief in the things that have no actual proof like the Bilderberg group, Global Reset, etc..
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Of course there's proof of the Bilderberg Group. The organisers USED to deny its existence, calling it a "conspiracy theory"; but there were too many Whistleblowers in the organisation giving away where their meetings were each year.

As for the 'Great Reset', Klaus Schwab even wrote a book of that title. And the World Economic Forum explicitly said: "You will own nothing and be happy"....

What more evidence do you need?........
 
Jack Ward said:
How is it that we somehow have more belief in the things that have no actual proof like the Bilderberg group, Global Reset, etc...
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Still pushing that one eh.

Of course there's no Bilderberg Group
Of course there's no Global ( Great ) Reset: The Great Reset
Of course there's no etc ... The COVID vaccines are safe and effective, the MSM is telling us the truth, there's been no suppression of UFO evidence, Oswald was a lone gunman, and Biden's not an animatronic robot.

... then we do in things that actually have documentation and smoking guns?
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Please do elaborate.
 
Jack Ward said:
If Climate Change is this grand way to remake society in the New World Order's image, it's been pretty much a bust since all the shouting of the Greta Thunbergs in the world haven't done square 1 to actually make the changes that are needed.
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What do you mean 'changes that are needed'...
Do you believe the mainstream narrative is correct?

And it doesn't matter if the ruling class' co2 goals aren't met. What's important to them is that it's an excuse for permanent control of the rest of the population....
 
Jack Ward said:
if this whole Global Reset is designed to wrest power from the US?
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You're again assuming that Americans currently dominate the world. But the global network of oligarchs is not an American project. These parasites are beyond nation states, and they hate patriotic Americans. They hate the founding fathers. They hate the 1st and 2nd amendments. They want to see America destroyed
 
Jack Ward said:
It's important to follow the evidence. Not what we think is down a rabbit hole, but actually what appears before us.
Whether we like the conclusion or not.
J
P.S. I apologize for the lengthy absence. I was in the hospital for a spell.
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Of course it's important to follow the evidence. But you alone here seem to be purposefully ignoring the evidence. The only conclusion I can come to is that you are either genuinely unaware of the evidence, or you are a troll trying to waste people's time.
 
Jack Ward said:
Considering most of the world's wealth is engaged through America either from American billionaires or as the US dollar as the defacto currency doesn't that seem a bit of a slam dunk.
I maintain this makes much more sense than some squishy theory based on a guy with a Powerpoint and an evil European accent.
How is it that we somehow have more belief in the things that have no actual proof like the Bilderberg group, Global Reset, etc... then we do in things that actually have documentation and smoking guns?
Other than some troubling rhetoric from World Economic Forum by some obviously ideological individuals. Do we see any actual legislation that would dismantle countries and bring sovereignty to an end for nations? Because I haven't seen such things.
If you're going to argue that Climate legislation does that, I think that's a pretty weak sauce answer as the Paris Accords are not only not legally binding but the US has never hit their targets.
If Climate Change is this grand way to remake society in the New World Order's image, it's been pretty much a bust since all the shouting of the Greta Thunbergs in the world haven't done square 1 to actually make the changes that are needed.

But there's a really easy way to prove whether Peter Zeihan is full of shit or not. Do the math. It's included in his book. Go see if his population projections fit or not? And why would his conclusions be that out of ALL the nations in the world, the US is still set to turn out the best of all the others if this whole Global Reset is designed to wrest power from the US?
It's important to follow the evidence. Not what we think is down a rabbit hole, but actually what appears before us.
Whether we like the conclusion or not.
J
P.S. I apologize for the lengthy absence. I was in the hospital for a spell.
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Jack, I hope the hospital has fixed you up, and if you find Skeptiko stressful, it might be better to wait until you feel ready for us.

OK, here is a form of 'climate change' that is clearly happening:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

I think I have actually noticed this effect where I live. The trees seem to grow faster and more luxuriantly than they used to do - maybe you see the same effect where you live. This is the slam dunk obvious consequence of more CO2 in the atmosphere - plants grow better. Effects that stare you in the face, and more reliable than ones that need to be teased out with elaborate statistical techniques.

David
 
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