Gary Heseltine, Rendlesham |600|

[Alex2]

Gary Heseltine, Rendlesham |600|​

by Alex Tsakiris | Oct 3 | Others
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Gary Heseltine… Rendlesham Forest UFO Incedents… new eye-witness accounts… narrative shattered​

 

[Wormwood]

This is such a great case. One of many alien encounters reported by members of the US and USSR military personal at nuclear missile launch sites and widely reported by both countries military servicemen. The TV show “Paranormal Witness” did a great episode on this case which included interviews of all the main witnesses. I highly recommend seeking this episode out. I’ll be back to comment more after I’ve finished this interview. Happy 600th Alex!

 

[Jridao]

Hi Alex. Great show. I’m looking forward to reading the book. Your guest, IMO, is barking up the wrong tree in regard to Greusch. Daniel Liszt, Dark Journalist, has been looking into this pretty deeply. He’s found out that Greusch’s lawyer and representative, who is the sitting person behind Greusch whispering in his ear during testimony, is a pretty serious government intelligence guy.

Liszt describes the lawyer (I apologize for not having his name at hand) as being the Attorney General for the intelligence agencies, this guy was involved in drafting the Patriot Act and is a protege of James Clapper.

I think that you’re more on the right track about the Greusch thing being Elizondo 2.0. Also, Liszt has found links that show Elizondo has been “grooming” Greusch for this current role.

Liszt has covered this quite a bit on his Dark Journalist (YouTube) show and he backs it up with data.

 

[grrjk]

ok, getting this book. I'd rather stick to paper than wait for kindle since they can always 'patch update' these digital formats;)

I think it's interesting take on the 'disclosure, why now?' topic, they want to get ahead of the blame and set some of the narrative.
I'd wager that 'level 2' disclosures will come close to an outgoing president, that way who would the general public point finger at and blame? No 'anti-hero characters' in this story unless you've been following it for years and know some players (assuming the disclosure comes with the public wanting answer to the damage caused for the decades of deceit).
Honestly I think they could just drop any news on us and vast majority of the public have been 'dociled' enough that it will just be a non story again. I'm not sure what would even get the public's attention, short of superman himself arriving... though that's been part of the 'media conditioning' for a while now too lol

Speaking of public figures; For movies thing, missing a 'indie jones' hero character makes sense but curious to know why would stop a Netflix style series, I dont remember any main heros in Chernobyl or Dark for example. Maybe he should reach out to production houses outside the US/UK, if you're talking to him Alex!

Also thought it funny about the non-interrupting interview part at the start, think Alex you gave him a bit more air time than usual after that lol even though it seems like it's easy for him to do lol

 

[Alex2]

Hi Alex. Great show. I’m looking forward to reading the book. Your guest, IMO, is barking up the wrong tree in regard to Greusch. Daniel Liszt, Dark Journalist, has been looking into this pretty deeply. He’s found out that Greusch’s lawyer and representative, who is the sitting person behind Greusch whispering in his ear during testimony, is a pretty serious government intelligence guy.

Liszt describes the lawyer (I apologize for not having his name at hand) as being the Attorney General for the intelligence agencies, this guy was involved in drafting the Patriot Act and is a protege of James Clapper.

I think that you’re more on the right track about the Greusch thing being Elizondo 2.0. Also, Liszt has found links that show Elizondo has been “grooming” Greusch for this current role.

Liszt has covered this quite a bit on his Dark Journalist (YouTube) show and he backs it up with data.

I agree with your assessment. Gary is a fantastic researcher. I was surprised he wasn't up on this.

I also agree about Daniel Liszt, Dark Journalist. He's done a fantastic job covering this.

 

[Alex2]

I think it's interesting take on the 'disclosure, why now?' topic, they want to get ahead of the blame and set some of the narrative.

Thanks... I don't buy this... Sounds like you don't buy it either :)

Honestly I think they could just drop any news on us and vast majority of the public have been 'dociled' enough that it will just be a non story again. I'm not sure what would even get the public's attention, short of superman himself arriving... though that's been part of the 'media conditioning' for a while now too lol

lol... Agreed

Also thought it funny about the non-interrupting interview part at the start, think Alex you gave him a bit more air time than usual after that lol even though it seems like it's easy for him to do lol

Haha... It's funny that you picked up on that. I did intentionally give him more time just to see how that would work. I think the technique has its place for people who are trying to recall traumatic events and maybe other places as well. But I found that a lot of people will only talk about stuff they're comfortable with if you allow it

 

[Chris.Smith]

First, can I say that I tend to believe that Rendlesham was a non human event.
The UFO connection to nuclear sites seems undeniable and Rendlesham would be one of many examples, starting with Roswell, trinity etc and described over decades in the Robert Hastings book UFO and nukes.
But…
Gary’s comment that we should forget everything we has already learnt about Rendlesham and read his new book - does not fit well with the evolving revelations in the last 10 years - eg the Carpel Green documentary which included witnesses on video describing UFO and UAP Including Warren and Longero.
so I think Gary’s book is evolution not revolution.
I haven’t been able to get a copy of his book yet - but I understand the magic sauce includes new details from key witnesses, I have to be sceptical about eyewitnesses coming out with new details after 40 years. Particularly if this is facilitated by non standard interview techniques. I know they have explanations about threats, repressed memories etc, but it weakens their credibility in my mind
40 years of exposure to TV and movie portrayals of UFOs and alien can really clutter your mind.
However I am interested in the hours of sound and moving images that they talk about ( celluloid, magnetic tapes or what ever the witnesses claim they were using) it almost sounded like it was a movie set…