Jimmy Falun Gong, Hitler’s Mind Control History |540|

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Jimmy Falun Gong, Hitler’s Mind Control History |540|
by Alex Tsakiris | Feb 15 | Skepticism
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Jimmy Falun Gong uncovers history linking Hitler to mind control through hypnosis.

 

[Starmonkey]

Mind control been around a long time!
Seems a huge puppet operation for a long time as well.
What's the end game? If there is one...

 

[Jack Ward]

Wow... so, thankfully Alex allowed him to expand a little at the end, but here Jimmy was explaining what I've been saying forever.
Forget Klaus Schwab- he's just a guy with a projector and a fun little convention annually.
There are no secret Globalists working to create some communist world-government.
The owners of the world have already made it happen.
Unfettered capitalism has constantly been at the root of what's gone wrong with the world. The Bezos and Gates' of the world want to constantly be paid and cut people's part of the pie more and more. That's what happened in COVID, that's what "The Great Reset" has always really meant...

Simply the wealthy getting wealthy and breaking the backs of the middle class so they will take whatever is offered as the poor.
Controlling the governments so that they continue to destroy social programs to help the poor, and instead provide them APP solutions.
This is why people keep getting poorer in the "Gig Economy".
It's the same reason why health care is such a disaster in America. Unfettered capitalism wants to get in the way between you and every service.
Don't pay for a cab when you can get a Uber for cheaper. Sure, but they pay their workers less and become more wealthy, destroying anyone who had a meaningful job as a cabby. What used to pay for a good job, now is a part-time job for anyone who can't make ends meet.

Why have the opportunity to have the healthcare your doctor wants? No, go private, and have your insurance company tell you what is and isn't covered based on how much they can NOT pay to help their profits? Middle men against preventing excellent care.

You want to see this being done? Go look at the Gilded Age and how that forced Roosevelt to make a massive change and involvement in infrastructure. Private enterprise couldn't build roads and bridges for the same money and durability as a healthy public works crew can. And if they did, they would set them up as tolls from now until eternity to make a profit from their labour.

The list goes on and on. And all the way back to the Oil Companies paying off both sides of WWII. And the Bush family making money selling to the Nazis, and IBM, and the lists go on and on.
Facism may have similar outcomes as Communism, but the biggest difference between both totalitarian regimes is Communism is tyranny from the Left where the government owns ALL the outputs. Facism has an unholy alliance where the party takes kick backs from capitalism and forces workers to work for private industry. Industry gets wealthy in Facism.

Both are wholly inappropriate, but we ignore one of those Dystopian futures at our peril.
Too long people have given capitalism a pass, because of the fear of communism. That's why the elite bankers run the world.
They can make people afraid of a horrifying communist future, while presenting a horrifying corporatist present.

When are we going to walk down this rabbit hole? Because, I guarantee you, everything I've said so far, has been what's happened.
And will continue to happen.
J

 

[ShaneTheThinker]

I am not crazy about all this theoretical observation on who Hitler was and what he did, especially if it was based on fiction writings. Nevertheless, most of what we hear about Hitler will for sure be fiction. Talking about Hitler is so fucking overplayed! It is like talking about how many guns shot fucking JFK in the head! Makes great headlines, doesn't it?!?!

Also, this HUGE push to act like Jews, who aren't a people, but a religion, don't have some kind of active hand in all this world chaos. It is a shit disturbing type of hand, and obvious.

 

[ShaneTheThinker]

Wow... so, thankfully Alex allowed him to expand a little at the end, but here Jimmy was explaining what I've been saying forever.
Forget Klaus Schwab- he's just a guy with a projector and a fun little convention annually.
There are no secret Globalists working to create some communist world-government.
The owners of the world have already made it happen.
Unfettered capitalism has constantly been at the root of what's gone wrong with the world. The Bezos and Gates' of the world want to constantly be paid and cut people's part of the pie more and more. That's what happened in COVID, that's what "The Great Reset" has always really meant...

Simply the wealthy getting wealthy and breaking the backs of the middle class so they will take whatever is offered as the poor.
Controlling the governments so that they continue to destroy social programs to help the poor, and instead provide them APP solutions.
This is why people keep getting poorer in the "Gig Economy".
It's the same reason why health care is such a disaster in America. Unfettered capitalism wants to get in the way between you and every service.
Don't pay for a cab when you can get a Uber for cheaper. Sure, but they pay their workers less and become more wealthy, destroying anyone who had a meaningful job as a cabby. What used to pay for a good job, now is a part-time job for anyone who can't make ends meet.

Why have the opportunity to have the healthcare your doctor wants? No, go private, and have your insurance company tell you what is and isn't covered based on how much they can NOT pay to help their profits? Middle men against preventing excellent care.

You want to see this being done? Go look at the Gilded Age and how that forced Roosevelt to make a massive change and involvement in infrastructure. Private enterprise couldn't build roads and bridges for the same money and durability as a healthy public works crew can. And if they did, they would set them up as tolls from now until eternity to make a profit from their labour.

The list goes on and on. And all the way back to the Oil Companies paying off both sides of WWII. And the Bush family making money selling to the Nazis, and IBM, and the lists go on and on.
Facism may have similar outcomes as Communism, but the biggest difference between both totalitarian regimes is Communism is tyranny from the Left where the government owns ALL the outputs. Facism has an unholy alliance where the party takes kick backs from capitalism and forces workers to work for private industry. Industry gets wealthy in Facism.

Both are wholly inappropriate, but we ignore one of those Dystopian futures at our peril.
Too long people have given capitalism a pass, because of the fear of communism. That's why the elite bankers run the world.
They can make people afraid of a horrifying communist future, while presenting a horrifying corporatist present.

When are we going to walk down this rabbit hole? Because, I guarantee you, everything I've said so far, has been what's happened.
And will continue to happen.
J

Taking shits
Celebrating deaths
Flushing dreams
Moderating

We called them lovers

Made miracles

 

[ShaneTheThinker]

Wow... so, thankfully Alex allowed him to expand a little at the end, but here Jimmy was explaining what I've been saying forever.
Forget Klaus Schwab- he's just a guy with a projector and a fun little convention annually.
There are no secret Globalists working to create some communist world-government.
The owners of the world have already made it happen.
Unfettered capitalism has constantly been at the root of what's gone wrong with the world. The Bezos and Gates' of the world want to constantly be paid and cut people's part of the pie more and more. That's what happened in COVID, that's what "The Great Reset" has always really meant...

Simply the wealthy getting wealthy and breaking the backs of the middle class so they will take whatever is offered as the poor.
Controlling the governments so that they continue to destroy social programs to help the poor, and instead provide them APP solutions.
This is why people keep getting poorer in the "Gig Economy".
It's the same reason why health care is such a disaster in America. Unfettered capitalism wants to get in the way between you and every service.
Don't pay for a cab when you can get a Uber for cheaper. Sure, but they pay their workers less and become more wealthy, destroying anyone who had a meaningful job as a cabby. What used to pay for a good job, now is a part-time job for anyone who can't make ends meet.

Why have the opportunity to have the healthcare your doctor wants? No, go private, and have your insurance company tell you what is and isn't covered based on how much they can NOT pay to help their profits? Middle men against preventing excellent care.

You want to see this being done? Go look at the Gilded Age and how that forced Roosevelt to make a massive change and involvement in infrastructure. Private enterprise couldn't build roads and bridges for the same money and durability as a healthy public works crew can. And if they did, they would set them up as tolls from now until eternity to make a profit from their labour.

The list goes on and on. And all the way back to the Oil Companies paying off both sides of WWII. And the Bush family making money selling to the Nazis, and IBM, and the lists go on and on.
Facism may have similar outcomes as Communism, but the biggest difference between both totalitarian regimes is Communism is tyranny from the Left where the government owns ALL the outputs. Facism has an unholy alliance where the party takes kick backs from capitalism and forces workers to work for private industry. Industry gets wealthy in Facism.

Both are wholly inappropriate, but we ignore one of those Dystopian futures at our peril.
Too long people have given capitalism a pass, because of the fear of communism. That's why the elite bankers run the world.
They can make people afraid of a horrifying communist future, while presenting a horrifying corporatist present.

When are we going to walk down this rabbit hole? Because, I guarantee you, everything I've said so far, has been what's happened.
And will continue to happen.
J[/QUOTE

OK, I owe you two mugs, Jack Ward.

 

[DazFurey]

So I'm really looking forward to episode two. There was something enticing about Jimmy's monotonous drone (no disrespect Jimmy!) that I actually went and started listening to his Programmed to Chill podcast (highly recommended) and I don't think he did himself justice in this first Skeptiko episode - he's well read, and has done his research and his stuff isn't just based on a fictional book. Alas for my own ignorance, I never knew Hitler was a spy for the German military forces fighting communism, that nazism was funded in part by Henry Ford or that Hitler's messianic megalomania could have been set off by person centred hypnotism following a stint of PTSD! Therefore, thank you Alex for once again getting me to educate myself ;-) I am looking forward to the next episode to see if you can get Jimmy to level 3 and/or to open up on consciousness and or where the good/evil debate takes us. I know Alex gives the Skeptiko treatment but I can't help but feel sometimes you're an apologist for capitalism as the "american dream" (and hard work) has worked for you. I can't help but feel Jimmy's going to try and sock to the capitalists in Silo and Alex will try to draw him into Good vs Evil. I just can't help but feel those upper echelons of capitalism are all evil! We'll see. Peace and Love :-)

 

[ShaneTheThinker]

So I'm really looking forward to episode two. There was something enticing about Jimmy's monotonous drone (no disrespect Jimmy!) that I actually went and started listening to his Programmed to Chill podcast (highly recommended) and I don't think he did himself justice in this first Skeptiko episode - he's well read, and has done his research and his stuff isn't just based on a fictional book. Alas for my own ignorance, I never knew Hitler was a spy for the German military forces fighting communism, that nazism was funded in part by Henry Ford or that Hitler's messianic megalomania could have been set off by person centred hypnotism following a stint of PTSD! Therefore, thank you Alex for once again getting me to educate myself ;-) I am looking forward to the next episode to see if you can get Jimmy to level 3 and/or to open up on consciousness and or where the good/evil debate takes us. I know Alex gives the Skeptiko treatment but I can't help but feel sometimes you're an apologist for capitalism as the "american dream" (and hard work) has worked for you. I can't help but feel Jimmy's going to try and sock to the capitalists in Silo and Alex will try to draw him into Good vs Evil. I just can't help but feel those upper echelons of capitalism are all evil! We'll see. Peace and Love :)

I am never crazy about the "how many people shot Kennedy" or the "who really was Hitler" shit, but I can understand how people flock around that kind of thing. Honestly, I don't give a shit about how many people shot Kennedy. Obviously, that is fucked up to shoot a guy riding with his wife, in a car, during a parade. It doesn't matter if it was one person or fucking 100. Anybody, Freemason or not, certainly deserves to go to hell for doing that. Is this like firing range mentality? Ok, we got twelve idiots executing one guy, and they all have guns. That way, none of them can take full responsibility for the shot?

As far as Hitler goes, does this shit ever end? I mean, history class, starting in like 2nd or 3rd grade, we are bombarded by how evil this guy was year after year. We are pounded with show after show of dead bodies getting bulldozed, along with Hitler giving rock star like speeches that none of us can comprehend. Fuck, the shit used to piss me off because I was tired of seeing it, year after year, in school, and I was a rather outspoken student.

Let me preface, I really don't hate any particular "group" of people. I think that humanity, in general, has a lack of attention to detail. We like to wrap things up in pigeon holed narratives because it makes us feel comfortable when we put on that jersey and support that team. Are all the Jews hellbent on subjecting the rest of the world to smashing a copper piece of Lincolns head between their fingers? - Pinching pennies, cheap mother fuckers, that use people? Shouldn't we began with a bit of research about cheapiality?

Let us bounce back to more "Hitler" research. To begin, none of you know who Hitler really was because we have been brainwashed by all our bullshit school systems. Is that far fetched? We have draconian laws being enforced on us right now, for "covid," by the same government that has repeatedly told us how evil and terrible Hitler was since we were in grade school. I told one of my tool history teachers, in high school, "Why the fuck do we have to watch dead people getting bulldozed every day?"

She replied, "So it doesn't happen again."

I said, "Look, if your school system doesn't want this to happen again, showing people examples on how to do it isn't going to help."

Fast forward today, into what is going on all over the world, such as the protests in Canada. The media is painting all these protestors as lunatics. This is in the face of a "mandated" experimental gene therapy that is proven to be killing people. Good thing we watched all those dead "Jews" getting bulldozed into ditches as kids! Looks like this will never happen again because of those videos!

 

[ShaneTheThinker]

Wow... so, thankfully Alex allowed him to expand a little at the end, but here Jimmy was explaining what I've been saying forever.
Forget Klaus Schwab- he's just a guy with a projector and a fun little convention annually.
There are no secret Globalists working to create some communist world-government.
The owners of the world have already made it happen.
Unfettered capitalism has constantly been at the root of what's gone wrong with the world. The Bezos and Gates' of the world want to constantly be paid and cut people's part of the pie more and more. That's what happened in COVID, that's what "The Great Reset" has always really meant...

Simply the wealthy getting wealthy and breaking the backs of the middle class so they will take whatever is offered as the poor.
Controlling the governments so that they continue to destroy social programs to help the poor, and instead provide them APP solutions.
This is why people keep getting poorer in the "Gig Economy".
It's the same reason why health care is such a disaster in America. Unfettered capitalism wants to get in the way between you and every service.
Don't pay for a cab when you can get a Uber for cheaper. Sure, but they pay their workers less and become more wealthy, destroying anyone who had a meaningful job as a cabby. What used to pay for a good job, now is a part-time job for anyone who can't make ends meet.

Why have the opportunity to have the healthcare your doctor wants? No, go private, and have your insurance company tell you what is and isn't covered based on how much they can NOT pay to help their profits? Middle men against preventing excellent care.

You want to see this being done? Go look at the Gilded Age and how that forced Roosevelt to make a massive change and involvement in infrastructure. Private enterprise couldn't build roads and bridges for the same money and durability as a healthy public works crew can. And if they did, they would set them up as tolls from now until eternity to make a profit from their labour.

The list goes on and on. And all the way back to the Oil Companies paying off both sides of WWII. And the Bush family making money selling to the Nazis, and IBM, and the lists go on and on.
Facism may have similar outcomes as Communism, but the biggest difference between both totalitarian regimes is Communism is tyranny from the Left where the government owns ALL the outputs. Facism has an unholy alliance where the party takes kick backs from capitalism and forces workers to work for private industry. Industry gets wealthy in Facism.

Both are wholly inappropriate, but we ignore one of those Dystopian futures at our peril.
Too long people have given capitalism a pass, because of the fear of communism. That's why the elite bankers run the world.
They can make people afraid of a horrifying communist future, while presenting a horrifying corporatist present.

When are we going to walk down this rabbit hole? Because, I guarantee you, everything I've said so far, has been what's happened.
And will continue to happen.
J

I revisited what you said because a lot of it makes sense. Do you think it is "unfettered capitalism" that is causing all these problems, or is it "fettered" capitalism? To me, it seems that a larger a business gets, the more it becomes connected to the government, and this fettering is a natural consequence. Also, we must visit the fact that it doesn't matter what we call "government" or "big business," once any asshole or group of assholes gets sufficient power, it often begins to act erratically.

 

[Alex]

or is it "fettered" capitalism?

Well played! does anyone else remember the day when antitrust was a real thing? does anyone remember when microsoft was genuinely concerned about being broken up? I do.

Today we have 90% of the search traffic control by one entity. we have coordinated de-platforming, shadowbanning demonetization... all of this would have been inconceivable 10 yrs ago.

a whole lotta frettering... or unfrettering depending how you look at it.

 

[Starmonkey]

I revisited what you said because a lot of it makes sense. Do you think it is "unfettered capitalism" that is causing all these problems, or is it "fettered" capitalism? To me, it seems that a larger a business gets, the more it becomes connected to the government, and this fettering is a natural consequence. Also, we must visit the fact that it doesn't matter what we call "government" or "big business," once any asshole or group of assholes gets sufficient power, it often begins to act erratically.

 

[Silence]

Well played! does anyone else remember the day when antitrust was a real thing? does anyone remember when microsoft was genuinely concerned about being broken up? I do.

Today we have 90% of the search traffic control by one entity. we have coordinated de-platforming, shadowbanning demonetization... all of this would have been inconceivable 10 yrs ago.

a whole lotta frettering... or unfrettering depending how you look at it.

Not entirely true Alex, at least the spirit of what you are inferring.

American Capitalism is littered with examples of large corporate interests co-opting/influencing regulation and oversight to their advantage. The mortgage crisis that came to a head in 2008 is a good, recent example. Remember, 1 junior banker went to jail and while the American taxpayers bore the brunt of the bailouts the bankers resumed their large bonuses.

Antitrust was never a panacea; its been regularly circumvented time and again.

All that said, I do believe the modern, western systems remain the best practical system we've seen to date. We should improve upon it though.

 

[ShaneTheThinker]

Well played! does anyone else remember the day when antitrust was a real thing? does anyone remember when microsoft was genuinely concerned about being broken up? I do.

Today we have 90% of the search traffic control by one entity. we have coordinated de-platforming, shadowbanning demonetization... all of this would have been inconceivable 10 yrs ago.

a whole lotta frettering... or unfrettering depending how you look at it.

Yes sir, that is why I don't jump on this "Oh shit, capitalism is what caused all of this control." Granted, if the government gives a bunch of assholes, who never created anything, a couple of billion dollars to juggle, and a fucking skyscraper, it certainly looks like capitalism is evil. Also, that isn't real evil, it is only capriciousness. Evil matters because it has to do with the annihilation of everything that makes this existence joyful. Granted, a few idiots might site to me that hard work makes this life intolerable, but I would say that work itself isn't the determining, yellow brick road to happiness. Community does matter! What community wants a fucking lazy, leach mother fucker draining its resources! - The answer is that no fucking community wants that piece of shit! Nevertheless, our communities have been reduced to what? - Friends on Facebook, or Instagram? Who really knows who lives right next to them?

The de-platforming, shadow banning, demonetizing is fucking out of control. Everybody knows what happened with Dan Dicks in Canada if you do any kind of thinking. That is the next level of how we will be fucked.

Love your show, Alex....looking forward to listening to the entire 15 year anniversary show tomorrow.

 

[ShaneTheThinker]

Not entirely true Alex, at least the spirit of what you are inferring.

American Capitalism is littered with examples of large corporate interests co-opting/influencing regulation and oversight to their advantage. The mortgage crisis that came to a head in 2008 is a good, recent example. Remember, 1 junior banker went to jail and while the American taxpayers bore the brunt of the bailouts the bankers resumed their large bonuses.

Antitrust was never a panacea; its been regularly circumvented time and again.

All that said, I do believe the modern, western systems remain the best practical system we've seen to date. We should improve upon it though.

I think that part of the problem is describing things in terms of "isms". We should be more descriptive, and use less "isms" and acronyms when it comes to "social engineering." I believe that the root of all evil stems from "social engineering," as opposed to actual engineering. When people desire to control each other, rather than understand, respect, and help each other.....shit gets fucked up. When people take away choice and put on jerseys, that is the beginning of idiocy.

 

[David Bailey]

Well played! does anyone else remember the day when antitrust was a real thing? does anyone remember when microsoft was genuinely concerned about being broken up? I do.

Today we have 90% of the search traffic control by one entity. we have coordinated de-platforming, shadowbanning demonetization... all of this would have been inconceivable 10 yrs ago.

a whole lotta frettering... or unfrettering depending how you look at it.

Maybe you do this already, but it is easy to reconfigure your browser (FireFox anyway) to use Duck Duck Go for all searching. If you do that, you still have access to GOOGLE if you want it by typing GOOGLE into the search/URL line.

David

 

[Frydreik]

Sorry. late to the ball...
but newest theories about ol`Adolf sure to poke me out of my winter-cave in the end..
And sorry, going to be long one...

If interesting to anyone:
Rant Part 1.-

The evergreen of "Hitler"and " Nazis"...an utterly fascinating social/societal phenomenon in my experience.
And personally most interesting I find the one aspect/blindspot that -it seems- is usually never talked about/investigated but is infact its very core: the people talking (about it).

Soberly seen the whole story is of course just a simple question of scholarly historiography, forensic science and jurisdiction/prudence, like every other thousands of cases of history and alleged (war) crime, with prosecution and defendant side, each of which to present their evidence and witnesses calmly, then a neutral jury/judge to arrive at an impartial verdict, all free of emotion. And as necessary fail-safe, an even higher impartial instance, watching closely said judge/jury to guarantee they indeed are/remain impartial and free of emotional bias and, if not, be removed from the case.

But, the most strange social aspect regarding this case though -in my experience- is the apparent complete inversion of that procedure and an amazing degree of emotionality that is dominating the debate instead of any simple scholarly 360 degree investigation.
Even when socalled scholars or researchers present/ talk about their particular conclusions what seems to be soberly, it usually only takes a slight scratching at the surface, one equally skeptical question regarding themselves and their theorem and a highly opinionated/emotional knee-jerk reaction is triggered instead of any interest/openess to investigate further.
The degree of aversion toward introspection is truly fascinating, when challenged to do that, most usually immediately attempt to instead turn the tables around again, ad-hominum attacking the others as "Hitler/Nazi-apologist" or the likes, to always firmly remain exclusively in the 180 degree skeptics accuser position, critisizing everyone, while noone shall criticize themselves.

The similarities to the behaviour of debunkers like Sam Harris, Ben Radford, S.Novella and others are striking.
All profess to be "open minded and unbiased/just show me the data..", yet when presented with scientific data/ research material contrary to their own worldview/ conclusions amazingly emotionally loaded pseudo-arguments are offered instead ( "all scientists agree/there is no evidence/this is just pseudo-/backwater science..") all to justify why they never just simply -nor ever need to-look at given research and their own convictions equally in an open minded skeptical way.
The simple tell tale sign in the end being their overall factual degree of knowledge. They usually cant even name some/any respected researchers of their opponents side (Long, Van Lommel, Beischel, Sheldrake, Radin..) let alone have ever actually read or can cite any of their publicized research.

Unfortunately usually the same strange phenomenon with people talking about Hitler/Nazis..
Even if they understand the german language (which very most of the english speaking world unfortunately dont it seems), they most often actually have never read even one whole speech, let alone book by the man/those they (seemingly love to) talk about.
And more often than not it turns out that their factual knowledge of any of the greater context and details (like history of Germany, Poland, Bolshevik Russia, Khazaria or even WW1/WW2) is surprisingly miniscule and mostly actually derived from 101 schoolbooks, browsed internet sites and-these days unfortunately- even mostly just movies, television and even social media...
Often turns out they have not even read any one entire scholarly historiographic book.
Which again I find a fascinating facet of the overall picture.

-On the other hand closedmindedness of course is not dependant on any side of any topic, but applies to all and here too, similar to the constellation of christian fanatics versus (Sam Harris-type) debunkers, there is the phenomenon of a knee-jerk-reaction/argumentation by members of the pro-Revisionist side as well who emotionally instead of factually argue and present claims without good evidence to support.
Which then of course can and is gladly used by their opponents to defame all of that camp, just like in the former Skeptic vs Believer case where a researcher like Sheldrake is lumped together with a fanatic christian evangelist, equally absurd like in reverse -in our case here-comparing mainstream renowned scholars like M.Broszat or D.Lipstadt to a fanatic left wing Nazi-hater commentator on Twitter.-

Regarding the theme "Hitler/Nazis" as a whole, purely factually for a detached investigator there are 2 completely possible alternatives/ routes here so far I can see:

1. All in all the mainstream view/ presentation of Hitler and NS-Germany crimes may well be totally correct, he and his regime did all they are accused of and simply were the most evil of all (those) times, had to be destroyed and all world should forever join in the "Never again"-motto.

2. The established AH narrative could also be simply a perfect shield to divert attention/investigation from the one (be it individual or nation) that is promoting it. The most well tested thousands of years old human tradition of the Scapegoat..
In the case of a nation- it may be the creation of a sought out propaganda narrative, painted as black as possible to make the painter appear at least more white in comparison and/or to justify/hide own crimes and subsequently actions fitting their own immoral agenda with/behind that hypocritical "moral superiority".
(Interesting fact f.ex. how often several US-officials directly named/referred to "Hitler" in the infamous "Babies out of Incubator"-Congressional Human Rights Caucus hearing on October 10, 1990 and how a simple Google search Saddam-Hitler gives 1.860.000 hits, Gaddafi-Hitler 630.000, Ahmadinejad-Hitler 1.720.000 and the best of course of all: Putin-Hitler 45.120.000 hits!)
In regards to the individual- the whole narrative may also be just an act of lazy indulgence into one of the very worst human flaws, the badmouthing/blame game, talking(/philosophizing) judgmentally and denigrating about the/a "OTHER(S)"-in this case another foreign nations leader/actions, plus also maybe simply seeking a kind of horror-porn story entertainment thrill and added bonus of mentioned feel of moral superiority through it.

In my experience while nr.1 could well be perhaps the right one, what makes it extremely suspicious though is the absolute absence and total rejection of any official honest investigation into possibility nr.2. and I wonder why that is?
(At least I have sofar not seen even one in the public mainstream arena, if anyone has, please point me to it!)
Added to that the widespread lack of any real contextual knowledge, the strong aversion to detailed investigation in favor for emotionally loaded generalities, the hysterical public name-calling and shaming and even worlds-first legal prosecution and jailing of scientists and their material on grounds of diverging from the mainstream history and I really get interested what the foundation of nr.1 may be?

 

[Frydreik]

In unlikely case anyone is still reading:

Rant Part 2:

Or-on the other hand- if approached from the other direction- what might actually be the very most astonishing fact about this particular topic is simply the end result, the sheer size of the whole thing.

In pure numbers:

a) Books written exclusively about that former german (77 years dead) chancellor:
-128.000 (according to Quora, if anyone has better sources please point to it)
b) Movies (just Hollywood):
-400 plus dealing purely with the topic. Average rate of making/release of new movie year 2022: 1 every 4 weeks.
-5000 plus directly mentioning/referring of/to the topic in unrelated movies as side memes/ derogatory jokes somewhere in it.
(F.ex. -from sketchy memory-interesting all super-hero marvel "Avengers","Captain America", "Wonder Woman" movies directly have it as side-theme, comedies like "Idiocracy", "Bridesmaids", "Red Notice", "Wedding Ringer", SNL..... all have at least 1 joke related to it somehere).
At average every 4th movie made/released, i.e. rate year 2022: ca 10/month.
c) Official television/newspapers Europe/America:
Estimated ca 400.000 articles in last 70 years, still produced at average rate in the year 2022: 1/ week(per newspaper).
d) Mandatory topic to learn and recite for every child in Europe/America from age 6 onward with legal/societal prohibition to consider/research differing views within the curriculum.
e) First and only topic in human/world history that has:
1. A global UN-sanctioned remembrance/holiday assigned, obligatory to all members, each january..
2. Open scientific research/debate forbidden by law in 25 european countries, Australia, Canada...(average number persons/cases prosecuted: 40 per day(!)in year 2022). Same laws officially required to join the NATO alliance.
3. Over 250 official commemoration sites/museums worldwide (mandatory to visit for thousands of schools yearly.)
4. 800 plus commemoration organizations worldwide (source:holocaustremembrance.com).

W O F..K MY WOW..

Someone definitely must love This Story..?

Who the most?
Purely statistically hierarchy of countries/organizations according rate of mentioning/effort to remind
(own research, please add if anyone finds better sources/numbers):
1. Israel/Jewish lobby/interest groups.
2. USA .
3. England.
4. Poland.
5. Germany (funny that one.., though why becomes unfortunately clear when looking at art.139 of their Grundgesetz -or art.7 of transition treaty-and who put it in there..smiley).
6. France.
7. About equally the rest of contries: Australia, Canada, Russia, former Eastern Bloc, southern Europe, South America...

By comparison- according to my latest search the entire Armenian Genocide has no more than 25 major commemoration sites/museums worldwide, the Holodomor ca 25, the American Indian and South American Genocides about 20, African Genocide/Slavery victims :around 40, Maos victims no more than two dozen, Stalins not even 30.
And all the statistics above about movies/books/media items/references seem to generally follow the exact peculiar ratio/pattern when related to these other Genocides.
Friend Adolf at average always somehow beats`em average about 10 to 1.
Despite actually all 5 latter of the abovementioned 6 genocides vastly outnumber the victimcount attributed to him, purely following the all-mainstream narrative..

( Fun fact- interestingly the mentioning/show ratio on Skeptiko seems to be around the same as well if my latest count is correct(corrections?), Hitler/Nazis mentioned/discussed directly/indirectly about for:total of 2 hours in 10-15 shows. Roosevelt for about 10 min sofar 1-2 shows(if I missed some show, please correct), Stalin- Zero? , Chamberlain/Churchill -Zero (ibd.)?, Eisenhower- Zero, Beck-Zero, Benes-Zero..? De Gaulle/Petain..-Zero? )

To sum up:
In april 2022`s and onward world practically every single individual of the min 500 millions of Europe/America at average cannot go more than 5-7 days without being directly reminded/referred to the topic of evil Hitler/Nazis by their governmental /public institutions or omnipresent media and entertainment industry , while being legally prevented from access (internet and other) to alternative research material in 80% of western societies and if foolhardy enough insisting on investigating and discussing such nonetheless in public risking at best, even in the rare still free-speech-countries, sure social denouncement and probable loss of friends/family/livelihood and at worst, in the majority of countries, guaranteed prison-terms up to 10 years.

In comparison-
when looking up the definition of the six sociological characteristics of Cults, Google says:
[1] Authoritarian Leadership · [2] Exclusivism · [3] Isolationism · [4] Opposition to Independent Thinking.[5] Fear of Being “Disfellowshiped”[6] Threats of "Satanic" Attack.

Do they maybe come frightening close here in the end?

Has this theme maybe somehow become a cult in our societies?

End Rant.

 

[Frydreik]

Jimmy Falun Gong, Hitler’s Mind Control History |540|
by Alex Tsakiris | Feb 15 | Skepticism
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Jimmy Falun Gong uncovers history linking Hitler to mind control through hypnosis.

Overall in the interview sounds (to me, could be wrong of course) like you in general have reached a pretty firm critical opinion/conclusion about A.Hitler, his speeches/actions/character, is that so ?

If:

1. Can I ask what research has led you to that conclusion, which historiographic sources/books did you find convincing/would you recommend ?

2. Would you say you have researched equal critically F.D.Roosevelt (or any of the other countries leaders during that time), did you find any dirty linnen and which sources/books there did you find worth looking into/would you recommend?

 

[Alex]

Sorry. late to the ball...
but newest theories about ol`Adolf sure to poke me out of my winter-cave in the end..
And sorry, going to be long one...

this sounds like a re-run of our prev... what's up with that???
https://www.skeptiko-forum.com/thre...lumbian-silliness-493.4670/page-3#post-156361

you challenged me to
Frydreik said:
could you please give an exact direct link to the primary source data on which those claims (at least the main ones) are based upon


and I did: https://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Holocaust/wansee-transcript.html

all this holohoax stuff sounds the same to me after awhile. also, holohoaxers are always worked up over how much attention is paid to hitler and the nazis. their solution is to bring more attention to hitler and the nazis.

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THE WANSEE PROTOCOL
This English text of the Wannsee protocol is based on the official U.S. government translation prepared for evidence in trials at Nuremberg, as reproduced in John Mendelsohn, ed., _The Holocaust: Selected Documents in Eighteen Volumes._ Vol. 11: The Wannsee Protocol and a 1944 Report on Auschwitz by the Office of Strategic Services (New York: Garland, 1982), 18-32. Substantial revisions to the Nuremberg text have been made to add clarity and, in some cases, to correct mistakes in an obviously hasty translation. These revisions were made by Dan Rogers of the University of South Alabama. This document is in the public domain and may be freely reproduced. Comments and suggestions may be e-mailed to drogers@jaguar1.usouthal.edu.


Stamp: Top Secret

30 copies
16th copy

Minutes of discussion.

I. The following persons took part in the discussion about the
final solution of the Jewish question which took place in Berlin,
am Grossen Wannsee No. 56/58 on 20 January 1942.

Gauleiter Dr. Meyer and Reichsamt- Reich Ministry for
leiter Dr. Leibbrandt the Occupied Eastern
territories

Secretary of State Dr. Stuckart Reich Ministry for
the Interior

Secretary of State Neumann Plenipotentiary for
the Four Year Plan

Secretary of State Dr. Freisler Reich Ministry of
Justice

Secretary of State Dr. Buehler Office of the Govern-
ment General

Under Secretary of State Dr. Luther Foreign Office

SS-Oberfuehrer Klopfer Party Chancellery

Ministerialdirektor Kritzinger Reich Chancellery

SS-Gruppenfuehrer Hofmann Race and Settlement
Main Office

SS-Gruppenfuehrer Mueller Reich Main Security
SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Eichmann Office

SS-Oberfuehrer Dr. Schoengarth Security Police and SD
Chief of the Security Police and
the SD in the Government General

SS-Sturmbannfuehrer Dr. Lange Security Police and SD
Commander of the Security Police
and the SD for the General-District
Latvia, as deputy of the Commander
of the Security Police and the SD
for the Reich Commissariat "Eastland".


II. At the beginning of the discussion Chief of the Security
Police and of the SD, SS-Obergruppenfuehrer Heydrich, reported
that the Reich Marshal had appointed him delegate for the
preparations for the final solution of the Jewish question in
Europe and pointed out that this discussion had been called for
the purpose of clarifying fundamental questions. The wish of the
Reich Marshal to have a draft sent to him concerning
organizational, factual and material interests in relation to the
final solution of the Jewish question in Europe makes necessary
an initial common action of all central offices immediately
concerned with these questions in order to bring their general
activities into line.

The Reichsfuehrer-SS and the Chief of the German Police
(Chief of the Security Police and the SD) was entrusted with the
official central handling of the final solution of the Jewish
question without regard to geographic borders...[/QUOTE]

 

[Frydreik]

I am not crazy about all this theoretical observation on who Hitler was and what he did, especially if it was based on fiction writings. Nevertheless, most of what we hear about Hitler will for sure be fiction. Talking about Hitler is so fucking overplayed! It is like talking about how many guns shot fucking JFK in the head! Makes great headlines, doesn't it?!?!

Also, this HUGE push to act like Jews, who aren't a people, but a religion, don't have some kind of active hand in all this world chaos. It is a shit disturbing type of hand, and obvious.

Good points man.
I myself have been wondering about that for years...
Same here in Sweden/Europe, barraged from earliest school age and every week somewhere in the media churned up gain...
Plus mentioned censorship...
What is all this?

Interesting mentioning of JFKennedy, seems like he was able to refrain from Hype:

“You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived.
He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him.
He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”
(JFK,1945)