Pam Popper, Fight for Health Rights |526|

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Who wants to admit mistakes, massive errors. Errors that ruin, kill and generally create caos in millions. Better just to continue.

Mistakes on that level means you'd have to confront your own ego. The ego might even decieve it's self, just so it can remain on the throne unchallenged. Say like ' I'm wrong man , sorry , I fucked-up" .. and just hung his head..

And even the ' little Man' as she says, drunk on his own words. Looking down as they scurry about. Strong brew indeed.

As opposed to say out and out homicide ( although that could be)
 
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It WILL be all of the lawsuits that flip this oversized turd on its noggin. I've thought that for awhile.
That will probably bring the entire establishment down as well. The institution. The system. GAME OVER.
DEFINITELY going to "win" this one. Desperation causing more and more mistakes and... It was a lost cause before it started. But humanity is WAKING UP because of all of the obvious crapola.
Sports, tv, movies... They're all BORING now. Old news.
 
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I've only made it to 12:20 but this gal is already nailing the common thinking problems like reification or mistaking events as having a causal relationship just b/c they're coincidental. OMG, she even realizes that scum always has a weakness, like the opiate-dealers who are 'devastated' by a loss of PRESTIGE, but not by the thousands upon thousands that have died due to their depravity.
Let's look at the extreme nature of the failure to convince ppl that vaccination is great for everyone. If it's so wonderful, why has Biden resorted to mandates (maddates)? It truly is falling apart at many levels. The swine flu plandemic was an opportunity to reform (decimate) society, according to Marge Chan. Xi Mao's wife is a general in the PRC's army, not an opera singer...I know it's not common knowledge IMO, BUT Xi Mao has tiny hands & those who study that sort of thing says they cannot be trusted.
Bless Pam's heart! My filipina wife bitches about the degradation of the American spirit, how it doesn't matter if the USA becomes a fascist state like the squalid Philippines, but Pam has got it right: ppl from all over the world still want to come here & we've got to save it! We will root out the trash that tries to force their evil on us through plandemics, deranged leaders who think love is an illusion.
 
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All good until the end where she thinks it can go back to being like ANYTHING it used to be. Or even resemble. Two party political system my ass.
 
#9
Will definately be sharing this episode with as many people as I can.
I'm trying to get comments from an Australian engineer friend of mine who's quite wise, so I'm hitting him & many others as well w/ this interview. Outstanding job of putting it together for the little guy.
 
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It WILL be all of the lawsuits that flip this oversized turd on its noggin. I've thought that for awhile.
That will probably bring the entire establishment down as well. The institution. The system. GAME OVER.
DEFINITELY going to "win" this one. Desperation causing more and more mistakes and... It was a lost cause before it started. But humanity is WAKING UP because of all of the obvious crapola.
Sports, tv, movies... They're all BORING now. Old news.
We should put a wager on this. Assuming you'll want odds?
 
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We should put a wager on this. Assuming you'll want odds?
Well, I already have the odds. It's in the STARS.
So, what shall we wager on exactly? Play Russian roulette? Princess Bride style? Duel at dawn?
;) ;)
Here's an idea. Let's see who can raise their vibration HIGHER. Any takers? That's a "contest" worth having.
 
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Well, I already have the odds. It's in the STARS.
So, what shall we wager on exactly? Play Russian roulette? Princess Bride style? Duel at dawn?
;) ;)
Here's an idea. Let's see who can raise their vibration HIGHER. Any takers? That's a "contest" worth having.
Maybe a signature bet. If you win, I'll put whatever you want in my posting signature. Same for you if I win.

That said, if you win there probably won't be an open internet for us to post to anymore!
 
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Maybe a signature bet. If you win, I'll put whatever you want in my posting signature. Same for you if I win.

That said, if you win there probably won't be an open internet for us to post to anymore!
We'll just do it TELEPATHICALLY.
You mean our avatars?
What determines "winning", exactly?
 
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My feeling is that Big Pharma has been allowed to get away with an immense amount of wrongdoing in recent years, and as Pam said, this has just emboldened them to grab more and more.

I have spoken to a number of people over here (UK) that are gutted by the behaviour of our whole NHS (which is pretty much controlled by Big Pharma). Nowadays, most doctors want to do as much as possible using ZOOM! I make some use of alternate health, and those clinics are getting full of people who either can't get help from the NHS or don't want what they have to offer. The guy I go to for acupuncture, knows a hell of a lot about the various health scandals. Pam made a brief mention of the scandal that some drugs can be marketed because they show a slim statistical advantage over alternatives, and yet when this is translated into a more meaningful measure is obviously not worth having. Statin drugs are like this, and have horrible side effects on a proportion of those who take them.

I also agree that the wheels are coming off this latest scam. Last autumn when the government's advisors (on the side of big pharma/NHS) said 'lockdown fast' they did. This autumn they looked at the figures, and pointed out that they had been twisted and left us English essentially free. The head of the NHS recently toured TV studios with her message that the statistics were much worse than last year - which they aren't, for various reasons - and that ploy has failed too. Meanwhile in Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon decided that nightclubs could only open if they checked everyone's COVID vaccination pass before entry. Now someone has discovered that the legislation could be thwarted by adding a bit of furniture on the dance floor! It would seem that she has now backed down on that idea as well.

I sincerely hope this scam is on its knees, but I won't feel totally safe until the leaders are all in jail.

We haven't taken the vaccines, and I know others that haven't. I also know a couple who got fully vaccinated and then caught COVID! These two are the only people I know directly who have caught COVID. They are aged about 55, and were over it in a week or so!

My hunch is that the whole pandemic probably started prematurely. It seems clear that Fauci and his Chinese colleagues were working on enhanced viruses. However, I think designing a really dangerous virus may not be that easy, because viruses typically evolve by becoming less dangerous so that they spread more easily. The reason I think that is that the numbers of deaths from COVID are clearly exaggerated. Most countries report anyone who tests positive for COVID and then dies as having died fromCOVID. The problem is that a lot of COVID tests happen to people as they enter hospital for other reasons - say because they have terminal cancer. This has obviously hugely distorted the statistics throughout this crisis.

David
 
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Pam Popper, Fight for Health Rights |526|
Pam Popper is a leading public health activist and advocate for personal health rights.
Excellent interview. Two main comments.
  1. While Pam and I are on the same side of the barricade, her tent is pitched a little closer to the fringe thinkers than mine. For example when she says "They want to kill us." I'm not entirely sure who she means by "they". I suspect there are fewer of "them" than is implied. Should we equate collateral damage in an effort to fight a disease with an intent to kill us? I think we need a more fine grained approach when it comes to accountability.


  2. The fine grained approach mentioned above needs to focus on identifying where the driving forces are in the evil that Alex talks about, and to do that, it would be wise to clarify our premises. The concept of good versus evil isn't dependent on other concepts, like whether or not we believe we're "biological robots in a meaningless universe" or whether or not we believe there is some "greater self within us".
    I would suggest that for those who haven't read Why Evil Matters, that Alex's interview on The Mystical Underground will be helpful.

    https://soundcloud.com/themysticalunderground%2Falex-tsakiris-why-evil-matters
    There are some issues in that interview, including a common misconception about the observer effect and the consequences of that misconception on our understanding of consciousness. We could dive in pretty deep on all of that, but ultimately we don't have to deny either science or the reality of consciousness. They can coexist just fine so long as we don't jump to conclusions about consciousness that cannot be substantiated.

    What we can do reasonably well is substantiate that we have measurable sensory experiences that can be attributed to the presence of consciousness, where the intellectual component is beside the point e.g. a color blindness test. With respect to good and evil, there is an intellectual component, where what constitutes good and evil can be framed philosophically.

    However for those who are sensitive to it, it is more than academic. It's something they can feel on a sensory level. I'm not sure if anyone reading this gets what I'm saying here ( Alex? ), but I'm interested in hearing perspectives on this. In other words, evil can be thought of as a type of phenomenon that is detectable by a particular sensory perception beyond the big five.

    In other words, it's not entirely subjective, just like optical vision isn't entirely subjective. By that, I mean that optical vision is dependent on an interaction between photons that are external and objectively real. So with evil, what then is this objectively real external phenomenon that we sense on what might be called an instinctual level?
 
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Excellent interview. Two main comments.
  1. While Pam and I are on the same side of the barricade, her tent is pitched a little closer to the fringe thinkers than mine. For example when she says "They want to kill us." I'm not entirely sure who she means by "they". I suspect there are fewer of "them" than is implied. Should we equate collateral damage in an effort to fight a disease with an intent to kill us? I think we need a more fine grained approach when it comes to accountability.


  2. The fine grained approach mentioned above needs to focus on identifying where the driving forces are in the evil that Alex talks about, and to do that, it would be wise to clarify our premises. The concept of good versus evil isn't dependent on other concepts, like whether or not we believe we're "biological robots in a meaningless universe" or whether or not we believe there is some "greater self within us".
    I would suggest that for those who haven't read Why Evil Matters, that Alex's interview on The Mystical Underground will be helpful.

    https://soundcloud.com/themysticalunderground%2Falex-tsakiris-why-evil-matters
    There are some issues there, including a common misconception about the observer effect and the consequences of that misconception on our understanding of consciousness. We could dive in pretty deep on all of that, but ultimately we don't have to deny either science or the reality of consciousness. They can coexist just fine so long as we don't jump to conclusions about consciousness that cannot be substantiated.

    What we can do reasonably well is substantiate that we have measurable sensory experiences that can be attributed to the presence of consciousness, where the intellectual component is beside the point e.g. a color blindness test. With respect to good and evil, there is an intellectual component, where what constitutes good and evil can be framed philosophically.

    However for those who are sensitive to it, it is more than academic. It's something they can feel on a sensory level. I'm not sure if anyone reading this gets what I'm saying here ( Alex? ), but I'm interested in hearing perspectives on this. In other words, evil can be thought of as a type of phenomenon that is detectable by a particular sensory perception beyond the big five.

    In other words, it's not entirely subjective, just like optical vision isn't entirely subjective. By that, I mean that optical vision is dependent on an interaction between photons that are external and objectively real and the sensors in your eyes. So with evil, what then is this objectively real external phenomenon that we sense on what might be called an instinctual level?
Yep, and that's one of the senses being awakened or reawakened right now because of all of this. Response to an existential threat.
On the other note, "they" are few indeed, compared to the rest of us, but there are a bunch of retards and misinformed idiots out there who mean well but are causing harm. That has also been played up and played upon.
Grapes of Wrath style. Don't hate the players, hate the game. More are waking up to the contradictions and illusion every day, not the other way around. And there will be no going back to sleep after all of this. No more killing us softly (or hardly, hardly). Har de har har.
 
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Yep, and that's one of the senses being awakened or reawakened right now because of all of this. Response to an existential threat.
On the other note, "they" are few indeed, compared to the rest of us, but there are a bunch of retards and misinformed idiots out there who mean well but are causing harm. That has also been played up and played upon.
Grapes of Wrath style. Don't hate the players, hate the game. More are waking up to the contradictions and illusion every day, not the other way around. And there will be no going back to sleep after all of this. No more killing us softly (or hardly, hardly). Har de har har.
Thanks for the feedback. I hope you're right. With Remembrance Day ( Veteran's Day ) happening tomorrow, how many people will remember that those who fought and died for what they thought was our freedom from authoritarianism recognize that their own country is falling to it right in front of their eyes, but either deny it or ignore it so long as they get their vaxxport?

Worse yet, how many think it's okay? How many people think it's fine with coercing citizens into receiving pharmaceutical injections they don't want at a cost of billions of dollars, not to mention the serious side effects, and even deaths that have been caused as a result?
 
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Thanks for the feedback. I hope you're right. With Remembrance Day ( Veteran's Day ) happening tomorrow, how many people will remember that those who fought and died for what they thought was our freedom from authoritarianism recognize that their own country is falling to it right in front of their eyes, but either deny it or ignore it so long as they get their vaxxport?

Worse yet, how many think it's okay? How many people think it's fine with coercing citizens into receiving pharmaceutical injections they don't want at a cost of billions of dollars, not to mention the serious side effects, and even deaths that have been caused as a result?
It takes a lot (seemingly) to wake people up to their personal responsibility AND accountability. And to reach critical mass, a gestalt if you will. And to get over all of our collective PTSD of millennia. Quite the order.
It's fascinating and exciting to watch it unfold. Trying to see beyond and behind. The bigger picture. Breaking boundaries. Unlimiting the Self.
May the Force be with you.
 
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