What does it mean

#2
I'm not sure I know what you mean precisely...

Obviously, I think, based on your prior topics that you understand the difference between clinical death and actual death, so could you provide a quote so we can clarify what you mean?
 
#3
What does it mean to say the brain is clinically dead but then some people then say it isn't.

What's going on?
It's a very difficult problem for doctors to deal with. If the brain cells are not irreversibly damaged and the brain stem is still intact, they can sometimes bring the clinically dead back, as we all know. But trying to determine these things with complete accuracy is impossible. Is the question you asked leading up to anything specific ?

http://www.gazettextra.com/20151231/definition_of_brain_death_depends_on_the_hospital_study_finds
 
#4
What does it mean to say the brain is clinically dead but then some people then say it isn't.

What's going on?
It means that "advancing the goal posts" is a stock-in-trade of physicalism.

Clinically dead and/or brain dead get defined but since physicalists hold that there is no existence of consciousness after death,they believe that anyone who comes back must not have been dead in the first place. So they re-set the definitions - and so on ad infinitum. There'll come a day when an atrophied corpse comes back to life and some will still claim that the person hadn't really been dead.
 
#5
It means that "advancing the goal posts" is a stock-in-trade of physicalism.

Clinically dead and/or brain dead get defined but since physicalists hold that there is no existence of consciousness after death,they believe that anyone who comes back must not have been dead in the first place. So they re-set the definitions - and so on ad infinitum. There'll come a day when an atrophied corpse comes back to life and some will still claim that the person hadn't really been dead.

Nicely put.
 
#6
It's a very difficult problem for doctors to deal with. If the brain cells are not irreversibly damaged and the brain stem is still intact, they can sometimes bring the clinically dead back, as we all know. But trying to determine these things with complete accuracy is impossible. Is the question you asked leading up to anything specific ?

http://www.gazettextra.com/20151231/definition_of_brain_death_depends_on_the_hospital_study_finds
I just need to know how to answer people who claim that clinically dead doesn't actually mean we are dead, Kinda ironic huh.

Thanks for the link I will take a look
 
#7
I'm not sure I know what you mean precisely...

Obviously, I think, based on your prior topics that you understand the difference between clinical death and actual death, so could you provide a quote so we can clarify what you mean?
I am, not as clued up on the topics of NDE'S and other such topics that are discussed here as I would like to think,

What is the difference between clinical death and actual death? and do people ever come back from actual death?
 
#9
Death appears to be less of a moment and more of a process; a series of events rather than a single event. Parnia has often discussed this and how difficult it makes any absolute classification/definition.
 
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#10
Death appears to be less of a moment and more of a process; a series of events rather than a single event. Parnia has often discussed this and how difficult it makes any absolute classification/definition.

So when can we actually say that someone is dead to the core?
 
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